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From: Gareth Rees <grees@undo.io>
To: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] [PR mi/29554] New PRINT-VALUES option '--scalar-values'.
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 11:04:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA8DSpEOd=WzRBryT-_LGLizQ+sEFBuS6VfTgzkELHCttXxrhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkl3h153.fsf@redhat.com>

Thanks for following up.

Andrew Burgess wrote:
> I would love to see some more information here about why #2 was selected
> over #1.
>
> I know in V1 and V2 you did implement #1, then in V3 you switched to #2.
>
> I saw that Eli preferred #2, but didn't seem to offer any reasons why.
>
> Did you run into some problems implementing #1?  Do you think it would
> break some MI users?

I switched from solution #1 (modify the existing option) to solution
#2 (add a new option) entirely because of Eli's comment. For my use
case (improving the performance of getting the stack trace in Visual
Studio Code), either solution works, and as a new GDB developer I
don't have the experience and expertise to make this kind of design
decision. I can only presume that Eli had good reasons for his
comment, presumably due to concerns about backwards compatibility, and
since it doesn't matter for my use case, I went with Eli's stated
preference.

> I'm happy to go with option #2, but I still think option #1 would be a
> better choice.  It would change IDE behaviour in some cases, but I don't
> see why that change would break any IDEs, and I can't imagine how the
> current behaviour can be considered the right thing to do.
>
> I suspect what we're really doing here is just collecting more technical
> debt; just another option '--simple-values' that nobody ever actually
> uses, but which we feel we have to maintain forever "just in case".

This also makes sense to me, but this is not a decision that I am in a
position to make! The experienced GDB developers -- in particular, you
and Eli -- need to come to an agreement about which approach is best
in this case: do you prefer to take the risk of a backward-
incompatible change (GDB/MI clients can no longer get the values for
references to compound types in C++ programs using --simple-values) or
do you prefer to accept the cost of leaving (what looks like) a
mistake to stand forever? I can implement whichever you think is best.

For the moment I will prepare a revised patch implementing solution #1
and addressing your other review comments. If Eli can also follow up
and help us reach a conclusion on the best design, that would be
great.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-08  7:18 [PATCH] [gdb/mi] Don't treat references to compound values as "simple" Gareth Rees
2022-09-08 10:27 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-09-08 11:02   ` [PATCH v2] " Gareth Rees
2022-09-08 13:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-08 13:58       ` Gareth Rees
2022-09-08 14:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-09  8:01       ` [PATCH v3] [PR mi/29554] New PRINT-VALUES option '--scalar-values' Gareth Rees
2022-09-15  9:06         ` [PING] " Gareth Rees
2022-09-25  8:15         ` Gareth Rees
2022-09-25  8:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25  9:00             ` Gareth Rees
2022-09-25 10:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 12:48                 ` Gareth Rees
2022-09-25 10:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 12:46         ` [PATCH v4] " Gareth Rees
2022-10-04  9:08           ` [PING] " Gareth Rees
2022-10-18 11:59             ` Gareth Rees
2022-10-12 16:38           ` Andrew Burgess
2022-10-20 17:47             ` [PATCH v5] " Gareth Rees
2022-10-20 18:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 16:20               ` [PING] " Gareth Rees
2022-11-14  9:25                 ` Gareth Rees
2022-12-01 13:41                 ` Gareth Rees
2022-12-14  8:50                 ` Gareth Rees
2023-02-01 10:00                 ` Gareth Rees
2023-02-16 10:08                 ` Gareth Rees
2023-03-06  9:52                 ` Gareth Rees
2023-03-08 12:35               ` Andrew Burgess
2023-03-10 11:04                 ` Gareth Rees [this message]
2023-03-10 12:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:58                     ` Gareth Rees
2023-03-13 17:17                     ` Andrew Burgess
2023-03-16 12:28                       ` Gareth Rees
2023-03-11 11:58                   ` Gareth Rees
2023-04-11 13:15                     ` Pedro Alves
2023-03-11 11:49               ` [PATCH v6] [gdb/mi] Don't treat references to compound values as "simple" Gareth Rees
2023-03-21  9:50                 ` [PING] " Gareth Rees
2023-03-26  9:56                   ` Gareth Rees
2023-04-03  9:22                     ` Gareth Rees
2023-05-04 15:08                       ` Tom Tromey
2023-04-18  9:23                   ` Gareth Rees
2023-04-24  9:53                   ` Gareth Rees
2023-05-02  9:13                   ` Gareth Rees
2023-03-27 14:34                 ` Tom Tromey
2023-03-29  9:14                   ` Gareth Rees
2023-04-06 17:18                   ` Gareth Rees
2022-10-20 17:58             ` [PATCH v4] [PR mi/29554] New PRINT-VALUES option '--scalar-values' Gareth Rees
2022-09-09  8:04       ` [PATCH v2] [gdb/mi] Don't treat references to compound values as "simple" Gareth Rees
2022-09-08 11:09   ` [PATCH] " Gareth Rees

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