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From: Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
To: Pierre Muller <pierre.muller@ics-cnrs.unistra.fr>
Cc: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	gdb-patches <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFA PATCH 2/3] Add debug-stabs debug-dwarf and class option for pascal compiler
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 21:23:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPb22TC0Ftf59jM388FSdF7L8jz-Oav3PYYrq5N8KYVU8Z_uQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54b07891.01b3c20a.2a7b.ffff9f96SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Pierre Muller
<pierre.muller@ics-cnrs.unistra.fr> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> This patch makes me uncomfortable.
>> It's to a pascal specific file, so at least the discomfort is contained
>> :-),
>> but I wouldn't want this spreading.
>>
>> How to select debug information should be
>> orthogonal to compilation language,
>> and there are a myriad of ways to select what kind of dwarf debug info
>> to get (with/without type units, with/without .gdb_index, with/without
>> dwz, and so on).  I have board files to help me drive the various
>> combinations I'm interested in.  This won't work if gdb.pascal/*
>> starts hardcoding debug info into the test.
>>
>> Maybe there's a good reason to do it this way for pascal,
>> but I need more data.
>
>  Hi Doug, the reasons of this patch are:
>
> 1) the particular problem that the series fixes is strictly limited
> to stabs debugging information.
>
>   Thus to really test that this bug has been fixed, I need to compile
> the test code using stabs debugging format (which I now realize
> I did not do in the third part of the patch series).
>
> 2) the pascal language support tries to support both
> GNU pascal compiler (aka GPC) and Free Pascal Compiler (aka FPC).
>
>   These two compilers have very different options,
> so the submitted patch purpose is to unify the selection of stabs versus dwarf
> debug format independently from the used pascal compiler.
>
>  For other pascal tests, only debug is used, which results in the default
> format according to the target architecture and operating system.
>
> I hope that the explanations above are sufficient to ease your discomfort.

Yeah, I figured those are the reasons, but I dunno.
We're inventing something new here when existing mechanisms
can already handle this.

One *could* have the test be debug-format agnostic,
and to test with stabs just do
make check RUNTESTFLAGS=--target_board=stabs

If you're using stabs you'll want to run the whole testsuite with stabs anyway.

Plus if a compiler has a different spelling for -gstabs, one could
have another board file for that compiler: you'll want to run the
whole testsuite
with that compiler anyway.

make check RUNTESTFLAGS="gdb.pascal/*.exp --target_board=fpc-stabs"

or some such.

Obviously, by "whole testsuite" I mean the pascal parts.
So that raises a question that may help guide the discussion.
When testing with fpc, how do you run the testsuite?
Do you just run the pascal subset, gdb.pascal/*.exp?
Or do you run the WHOLE testsuite (i.e., gdb.*/*.exp),
e.g., just a plain "make check"
and expect the test harness to pick up fpc and DTRT.
How do other languages handle this I wonder.

I'm not totally opposed to this (I don't like to say "No."),
but I'm still uncomfortable with the patch.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-10 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <54ae4586.01e3440a.7b06.fffff844SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-08 10:48 ` [RFA] Fix pascal behavior for class fields Pedro Alves
2015-01-08 13:01   ` Pierre Muller
     [not found]   ` <54ae7f9f.c323460a.36ed.ffffff30SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-08 13:41     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-08 14:15       ` gdb-patches RFA: " Pierre Muller
     [not found]       ` <54ae911b.85e3440a.1d96.5ffdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-09 10:52         ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-09 10:55           ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-09 16:16           ` [RFA PATCH 1/3] Remember the case pattern that allowed finding a field of this Pierre Muller
2015-01-23  7:30             ` [RFA PATCH 1/3 V3] " Pierre Muller
2015-02-04 23:37               ` [RFA PATCH 1/3 V4] " Pierre Muller
2015-01-09 16:16           ` [RFA 0/3] Fix pascal behavior for class fields with testcase Pierre Muller
2015-01-09 16:18             ` [RFA PATCH 2/3] Add debug-stabs debug-dwarf and class option for pascal compiler Pierre Muller
2015-02-04 23:37             ` [RFA 0/3 V4] Fix pascal behavior for class fields with testcase Pierre Muller
2015-02-15  6:59               ` PING " Pierre Muller
2015-04-07 20:06                 ` PING^2 " Pierre Muller
     [not found]               ` <54e043b2.626ec20a.0c59.ffffaeacSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-04-20  6:00                 ` PING " Doug Evans
2015-04-21 20:33                   ` Pierre Muller
2015-01-09 16:18           ` [RFA PATCH 3/3] Testcase for pascal/17815 Pierre Muller
     [not found]           ` <54afff61.6790420a.0fa7.4f63SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-10  0:45             ` [RFA PATCH 2/3] Add debug-stabs debug-dwarf and class option for pascal compiler Doug Evans
2015-01-10  0:55               ` Pierre Muller
     [not found]               ` <54b07891.01b3c20a.2a7b.ffff9f96SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-10 21:23                 ` Doug Evans [this message]
2015-01-14 15:04                   ` [RFA PATCH 2/3 V2] Add "class" " Pierre Muller
     [not found]                   ` <54b6858f.a287440a.5b61.ffff9ef0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-22 12:49                     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-23  5:21                       ` [RFA PATCH 2/3 V3] " Pierre Muller
2015-01-23 11:55                         ` Pedro Alves
2015-02-04 23:37                           ` [RFA PATCH 2/3 V4] " Pierre Muller
     [not found]           ` <54afff6b.ee8d440a.16ee.ffffb424SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2015-01-22 12:46             ` [RFA PATCH 3/3] Testcase for pascal/17815 Pedro Alves
2015-01-23  7:16               ` [RFA PATCH 3/3 V3] " Pierre Muller
2015-01-23 12:29                 ` Pedro Alves
2015-02-04 23:37                   ` [RFA PATCH 3/3 V4] " Pierre Muller

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