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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Philipp Rudo <prudo@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, peter.griffin@linaro.org,
	yao.qi@arm.com,        arnez@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/7] Add libiberty/concat styled concat_path function
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:42:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1f2c642-3a7c-16f0-6f8e-a05a668593c9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170112160854.0040376a@ThinkPad>

On 01/12/2017 03:08 PM, Philipp Rudo wrote:
> its quite obvious that you are pro C++. My own feelings are quite
> mixed. I must amid that the standard library is quite handy, at least
> when it works. Debugging it is quite a pain.

There's definitely lots of scope for making C++ debugging less painful.
I think 2017 will see good advancements here.  For example, with the
palves/cp-linespec branch on my github, setting breakpoints in C++ methods
is soooooo much easier, mainly because I've made linespec tab completion
Just Work.  The whole "compile" feature for C++ (making use of g++ for
the parsing, via the libcc1 plugin) should be making it upstream this year.
Etc.

Keep in mind that a significant (if not the largest) chunk of
our users is using GDB to debug their C++ code too.  So in a sense,
any pain we now may feel, a good chunk of our users have been feeling
for a long while.  We just hadn't been dogfooding.

> But the syntax sometimes
> is unreadable, especially when you use those teplates containing
> templates using types is different namespaces.

OTOH, stepping through C code that emulates templates using
C #defines OTOH is just plain impossible, since all of it
is compiled down to a single source line...  So in that sense,
I think debugging C++ is better than C here.

It also helps if you're using a distro that installs pretty printers
for the standard library correctly.  Fedora does.  Ubuntu didn't use
to, but I don't know the current state.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-12 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-12 11:32 [RFC 0/7] Support for Linux kernel debugging Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 11:32 ` [RFC 1/7] Convert substitute_path_component to C++ Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 11:32 ` [RFC 7/7] Add S390 support for linux-kernel target Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 17:09   ` Luis Machado
2017-01-13 11:46     ` Philipp Rudo
2017-02-06 15:52     ` Yao Qi
2017-02-06 18:48       ` Andreas Arnez
2017-01-12 11:32 ` [RFC 6/7] Add privileged registers for s390x Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 11:32 ` [RFC 2/7] Add libiberty/concat styled concat_path function Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 12:00   ` Pedro Alves
2017-01-12 13:33     ` Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 13:48       ` Pedro Alves
2017-01-12 15:09         ` Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 15:42           ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2017-01-12 11:32 ` [RFC 3/7] Add basic Linux kernel support Philipp Rudo
2017-02-07 10:54   ` Yao Qi
2017-02-07 15:04     ` Philipp Rudo
2017-02-07 17:39       ` Yao Qi
2017-02-09  9:54         ` Philipp Rudo
2017-02-09 13:06     ` Yao Qi
2017-02-09 15:09       ` Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 11:32 ` [RFC 5/7] Add commands for linux-kernel target Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 12:56 ` [RFC 0/7] Support for Linux kernel debugging Philipp Rudo
2017-01-12 13:02 ` [RFC 4/7] Add kernel module support for linux-kernel target Philipp Rudo
2017-01-25 18:10 ` [RFC 0/7] Support for Linux kernel debugging Peter Griffin
2017-01-26 13:12   ` Philipp Rudo
2017-02-03 17:45     ` Yao Qi
2017-02-03 19:46       ` Andreas Arnez

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