From: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>,
Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>
Cc: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>,
Thiago Jung Bauermann via Gdb-patches
<gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/8] gdbserver/linux-aarch64: When thread stops, update its target description
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 11:13:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb4f21e1-c20d-8190-e265-8107d2d27da8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qn79zqk.fsf@linaro.org>
On 2/3/23 03:47, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
>
> Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca> writes:
>
>> On 2/1/23 21:54, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
>>>
>>> Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/23 16:21, Simon Marchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/gdbserver/linux-low.h b/gdbserver/linux-low.h
>>>>>>> index 221de85aa2ee..b52eb23cc444 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/gdbserver/linux-low.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/gdbserver/linux-low.h
>>>>>>> @@ -604,6 +604,12 @@ class linux_process_target : public process_stratum_target
>>>>>>> /* Architecture-specific setup for the current thread. */
>>>>>>> virtual void low_arch_setup () = 0;
>>>>>>> + /* Allows arch-specific code to set the thread's target description when the
>>>>>>> + inferior stops. Returns nullptr if no thread-specific target description
>>>>>>> + is necessary. */
>>>>>>> + virtual const struct target_desc *
>>>>>>> + get_thread_tdesc (const thread_info *thread);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the comment for this function is not correct. The function does
>>>>>> not SET the thread's target description, but just GETS a target
>>>>>> description suitable for `thread`. It's the caller's job to do the
>>>>>> setting.
>>>>> This comment also gave me pause. How does a getter set something. I
>>>>> then understood that it allowed the arch-specific code to provide a
>>>>> thread-specific tdesc. I would suggest just:
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, I read it as "the functions *allows* arch-specific code to set".
>>>> So it doesn't set on its own, but it does allow something else to do
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's what was in my mind when I wrote the comment. But I agree
>>> it's unclear, and I adopted Simon's suggested version.
>>>
>>>>> The other thought I had while re-reading the patch is why do we need to
>>>>> return and store nullptr if the thread target description is the same as
>>>>> the main one for the process. get_thread_tdesc could just return
>>>>> process_info->tdesc if we don't need a separate tdesc, and we would
>>>>> store that same pointer in thread_info->tdesc.
>>>
>>> We don't need to return and store nullptr if the thread target
>>> description is the same as the main one for the process. Things will
>>> work fine if we do as you suggest. IIRC my private branch worked liked
>>> that for a while, before I changed it to the current version.
>>>
>>> I changed it because I thought it was a clearer mental model if
>>> thread_info->tdesc is nullptr when there's not thread-specific target
>>> description. I can make the get_thread_tdesc method always return a
>>> valid target description if you think it's better that way.
>>
>> Either way works.
>
> Ok, if there's no preference I suggest leaving it as it is now (unless
> we decide moving away from process_info->tdesc).
>
>>>>> And get_thread_tdesc would just return that (in fact,
>>>>> get_thread_tdesc might not be necessary then). Perhaps it makes some
>>>>> things more complicated down the road, but I can't think of anything.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I don't understand this part. get_thread_tdesc is necessary
>>> because it's the hook that allows arch-specific code to provide a target
>>> description for the thread. I don't see how it can become unnecessary.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you mean the get_thread_target_desc function? Sorry about the
>>> names being so similar, I spent some time trying to think of a better
>>> name for either the method or the function but failed.
>>
>> Err yeah, I meant the free function that returns the process' tdesc if
>> the thread doesn't have one.
>>
>>> In any case, it wouldn't be possible to make get_thread_target_desc just
>>> return thread_info->tdesc because at least the way these patches are
>>> currently written, when the inferior starts or a new thread of the
>>> inferior is spawned thread_info->tdesc is nullptr. gdbserver will only
>>> call get_thread_tdesc after the first stop (in get_thread_regcache, in
>>> the process of obtaining the pc register), so we will need to cope with
>>> that situation.
>>
>> Ok. Would it work if a new thread initially inherited the tdesc from
>> its process?
>
> Yes, it would. Version 1 of these patches didn't work exactly like that
> because I removed process_info->tdesc, but the new thread inherited from
> the parent thread's tdesc. This happened in
> linux_process_target::handle_extended_wait where the clone and fork
> events are handled.
>
>>>> Sounds reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> Moving towards thread-specific target descriptions/gdbarch would be a positive thing
>>>> given
>>>> the SVE precedent. The process-wide target description/gdbarch no
>>>> longer reflects the correct settings for each thread on AArch64's with SVE support.
>>>
>>> In the first version of these patches I removed the process-wide target
>>> description and moved it to thread_info, but it was a big patch that
>>> touched many targets. I can bring it back if you think it's worth it.
>>
>> At least for the register description, if we decide it's now a
>> per-thread thing, what does it mean to have a process-wide description
>> anyway? I think it would make sense to get rid of it, that could help
>> confirm our model works (and it would remove the chance of using the
>> wrong tdesc by mistake for a thread that has its own tdesc). It's
>> probably something that can be done incrementally though.
>
> Would it be done incrementally by keeping process_info->tdesc but
> changing each target in turn to use thread_info->tdesc and ignore the
> process_info one?
>
Given only AArch64 has this requirement at the moment, it may be easier to leave the process-wide tdesc up until the point we can safely/easily switch to thread-specific ones.
After that, AArch64 will have potentially distinct thread tdescs while other architectures will have threads sharing the same tdesc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-03 11:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-30 4:45 [PATCH v3 0/8] gdbserver improvements for AArch64 SVE support Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] gdbserver: Add assert in find_register_by_number Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-31 17:05 ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-31 19:49 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 15:43 ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] gdbserver: Add PID parameter to linux_get_auxv and linux_get_hwcap Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 9:07 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 10:54 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 16:01 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 19:33 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 19:53 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 21:55 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 19:54 ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-06 20:16 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-07 15:19 ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 21:47 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-09 1:31 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-10 3:54 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-07 22:28 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] gdbserver/linux-aarch64: Factor out function to get aarch64_features Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 8:59 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 16:04 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 22:13 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] gdbserver/linux-aarch64: When thread stops, update its target description Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 9:05 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 11:06 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 16:21 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 16:32 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-02 2:54 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-02 3:47 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 3:47 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 11:13 ` Luis Machado [this message]
2023-02-04 15:26 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 11:11 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-04 15:21 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 9:07 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-06 12:15 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 20:29 ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 8:11 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-07 14:39 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 10:57 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-04 6:18 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 20:26 ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 21:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-09 2:46 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-10 3:29 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-10 14:56 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-10 15:04 ` Tom Tromey
2023-02-10 15:28 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-10 17:26 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-10 21:01 ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] gdbserver: Transmit target description ID in thread list and stop reply Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 14:05 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 9:39 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 12:07 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 17:37 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-02 20:36 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-02 20:56 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 20:46 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-02 21:43 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 14:51 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 17:03 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-02 19:52 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-02 20:51 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 2:44 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 16:29 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-04 6:08 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 11:22 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-03 12:50 ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] gdb/remote: Parse tdesc field in stop reply and threads list XML Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 9:52 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-05 0:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 9:10 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 14:32 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 19:50 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 20:16 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 11:27 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-03 13:19 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 16:33 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] gdb/aarch64: Detect vector length changes when debugging remotely Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 9:58 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 15:26 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 20:20 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 11:31 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-03 16:38 ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-03 19:07 ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30 4:45 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] gdb/testsuite: Add test to exercise multi-threaded AArch64 SVE inferiors Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 10:10 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-06 19:11 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] gdbserver improvements for AArch64 SVE support Pedro Alves
2023-02-06 20:05 ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-06 21:06 ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 13:49 ` Simon Marchi
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