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From: Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>,
	Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] gdbserver improvements for AArch64 SVE support
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 15:05:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dad86044-18ed-92b6-b074-2dbe77008c54@simark.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28bdd610-982d-aebb-ebc7-17b6d5fd80ed@palves.net>


> Ah!  I had also suggested to you something like that at the Cauldron (when we were in line
> for lunch.  :-D  However, IIRC, I had suggested that we should be able to cache the tdesc by filename.
> 
> Let me explain -- when we fetch a target description, we actually tell the server
> to retrieve a tdesc _by a given filename_.  By default, we ask for target.xml, like this:
> 
>  qXfer:features:read:target.xml
> 
> but then, the retrieved target.xml file may "xi:include" some other file, like for example these do:
> 
>  gdb/features/s390-linux64.xml:14:  <xi:include href="s390-core64.xml"/>
>  gdb/features/s390-linux64.xml:15:  <xi:include href="s390-acr.xml"/>
>  gdb/features/s390-linux64.xml:16:  <xi:include href="s390-fpr.xml"/>
> 
> (try grepping for xi:include in the gdb/features/ dir for a lot more hits.)
> 
> and so when processing each of those xi:include's, gdb sends another qXfer:features:read packet,
> with the corresponding included filename, like e.g., 
> 
>   qXfer:features:read:s390-core64.xml
> 
> Here's what the manual says:
> 
>  @item qXfer:features:read:@var{annex}:@var{offset},@var{length}
>  @anchor{qXfer target description read}
>  Access the @dfn{target description}.  @xref{Target Descriptions}.  The
>  annex specifies which XML document to access.  The main description is
>  always loaded from the @samp{target.xml} annex.
> 
> So basically I am suggesting that instead a new ID mechanism, we should be able to
> use the preexisting annex/filename concept as key.  That means that the stop reply and
> the thread listing would include a new "tdesc=foo.xml" attribute, instead of this
> ID that then is defined to map to "target-id-%u.xml", which is basically admitting
> that tdesc filenames exist anyhow.

Just for completeness, how do you envision that working for SVE?
GDBserver would make up unique names for each configuration, like
"target-vq-%d.xml"?

If caching using filenames as keys, what is the scope of that namespace?
Per remote connection, per inferior?  I think it wouldn't work per
remote connection, because fetching "target.xml" for two different
inferiors could give two different answers.

Tangentially, I'm wondering if querying qXfer:features:read (mostly
fetching "target.xml" is going to become thread-sensitive.  In other
words, if GDB set the general thread to a thread with vq == A, gets
target.xml, then sets the general thread to a thread with vq == B, then
gets target.xml, is it going to get two different target descriptions?
I think that it would make sense to do so *.  Therefore, caching
target.xml per-inferior wouldn't be reliable either.  And if included
files could vary per thread, you'd have to make sure to give them unique
names.

* I think that since we're going towards thread-specific tdescs, the
  process-wide tdesc is going to become an obsolete concept, maybe just
  kept for backwards compatibility for when an old GDB not aware of
  per-thread tdescs talks to a new GDBserver aware of it, or vice versa.

Simon

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-30  4:45 Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] gdbserver: Add assert in find_register_by_number Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-31 17:05   ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-31 19:49     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 15:43       ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] gdbserver: Add PID parameter to linux_get_auxv and linux_get_hwcap Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01  9:07   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 10:54   ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 16:01     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 19:33       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 19:53         ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 21:55           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 19:54   ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-06 20:16     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-07 15:19       ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 21:47         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-09  1:31           ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-10  3:54             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-07 22:28     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] gdbserver/linux-aarch64: Factor out function to get aarch64_features Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01  8:59   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 16:04     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 22:13       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] gdbserver/linux-aarch64: When thread stops, update its target description Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01  9:05   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 11:06   ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 16:21     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 16:32       ` Luis Machado
2023-02-02  2:54         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-02  3:47           ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03  3:47             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 11:13               ` Luis Machado
2023-02-04 15:26                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 11:11             ` Luis Machado
2023-02-04 15:21               ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06  9:07                 ` Luis Machado
2023-02-06 12:15                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 20:29                 ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07  8:11                   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-07 14:39                     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 10:57           ` Luis Machado
2023-02-04  6:18             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06 20:26           ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 21:06             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-09  2:46               ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-10  3:29                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-10 14:56                   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-10 15:04                     ` Tom Tromey
2023-02-10 15:28                       ` Luis Machado
2023-02-10 17:26                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-10 21:01                         ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] gdbserver: Transmit target description ID in thread list and stop reply Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-01-30 12:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 14:05     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01  9:39   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 12:07   ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 13:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 17:37     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-02 20:36       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-02 20:56         ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 20:46     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-02 21:43       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 14:51   ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 17:03     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-02 19:52       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-02 20:51         ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03  2:44           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 16:29             ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-04  6:08               ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-03 11:22       ` Luis Machado
2023-02-03 12:50         ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] gdb/remote: Parse tdesc field in stop reply and threads list XML Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01  9:52   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-05  0:06     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-06  9:10       ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 14:32   ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 19:50     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-01 20:16       ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 11:27         ` Luis Machado
2023-02-03 13:19           ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 16:33             ` Andrew Burgess
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] gdb/aarch64: Detect vector length changes when debugging remotely Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01  9:58   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-01 15:26   ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-01 20:20     ` Simon Marchi
2023-02-03 11:31       ` Luis Machado
2023-02-03 16:38       ` Andrew Burgess
2023-02-03 19:07         ` Simon Marchi
2023-01-30  4:45 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] gdb/testsuite: Add test to exercise multi-threaded AArch64 SVE inferiors Thiago Jung Bauermann
2023-02-01 10:10   ` Luis Machado
2023-02-06 19:11 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] gdbserver improvements for AArch64 SVE support Pedro Alves
2023-02-06 20:05   ` Simon Marchi [this message]
2023-02-06 21:06     ` Pedro Alves
2023-02-07 13:49       ` Simon Marchi

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