From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2375 invoked by alias); 9 May 2003 00:02:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 2368 invoked from network); 9 May 2003 00:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.31) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 9 May 2003 00:02:58 -0000 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4902xH26708 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:02:59 -0400 Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.156]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4902wI22434 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:02:58 -0400 Received: from localhost.redhat.com (romulus-int.sfbay.redhat.com [172.16.27.46]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4902w805586 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:02:58 -0400 Received: by localhost.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 469) id AD5DA2C89F; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Elena Zannoni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16058.61783.466409.578135@localhost.redhat.com> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 00:02:00 -0000 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnter_Knauf?= Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: Deprecate dwarf and mdebug support, delete nlm? In-Reply-To: <200305082242.h48MgQH06975@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200305082242.h48MgQH06975@mx1.redhat.com> X-SW-Source: 2003-05/txt/msg00114.txt.bz2 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnter_Knauf?= writes: > Hi Elena, > > nlm... you mean nlmread.c or nlm/* ? > > google threw up a few things: > > http://home.arcor.de/armin.diehl/fpcnw/gdbnw.html (seems active, uses 5.3). > > http://www.herdsoft.com/ti/netware/cross/4_Debugging.html > > There is a gdb wrapper program now that translated netware remote > > protocol into gdb remote protocol and vice versa. So they are not > > using NLM gdbserver anymore because that supports older versins of > > netware only. > > > elena > > please dont do that!! We still need the NLM gdbserver; > a few NetWare developers (including me) started about 4 years ago with > developing NLMs with gcc/nlmconv, and also we use the gdbserver. I know > both of the above mentioned developers and I'm in contact with them; > and if we really dont need the gdbserver anymore we will post here... > but until then please dont drop the NLM support! > thanks, Guenter. > Ah, there is life out there, then! :-) This is good news. Let me explain: the problem we are facing is that gdb is moving forward, while a few pieces, like nlm, mdebug support, etc, seem to languish behind, and don't get modernized as the rest of gdb. It is becoming harder and harder to keep them integrated with the rest of the debugger, mostly because people don't have a way to even test them. Given that there is active development in this area, I strongly encourage you and the other Netware developers to become an active part of the gdb community, and bring the parts you work on more in tune with the rest of the debugger. We will all benefit from such an approach. Are you guys willing to do that? If so, please, make sure you have copyright assignments in place ahead of time. TIA Elena