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From: Paul Koning <pkoning@equallogic.com>
To: jimb@codesourcery.com
Cc: msnyder@specifix.com,     eliz@gnu.org,     gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Watchpoints with condition
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18261.36348.314085.746805@pkoning-laptop.equallogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zlwqfk5z.fsf@codesourcery.com>

>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Blandy <jimb@codesourcery.com> writes:

 Jim> Michael Snyder <msnyder at specifix.com> writes:
 >> On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 06:23 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
 >>> > Cc: gdb@sourceware.org > From: Jim Blandy
 >>> <jimb@codesourcery.com> > Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:07:19 -0800
 >>> > 
 >>> > In the use case you mention, why wouldn't 'watch v == X';
 >>> 'watch v == > Y'; etc. have worked for you?  You would have
 >>> gotten more hits than > you'd like, but only twice as many --- is
 >>> that right?
 >>> 
 >>> It would have shown me hits I don't want to see, yes.  And it is
 >>> more natural to write "watch X if X == 1" than what you suggest.
 >>  I have to agree -- typing "watch X == 1" is intuitive to you and
 >> me (because we're gdb hackers), but it would not be intuitive to
 >> most users.  Besides, as Eli says, it gives you unwanted hits.
 >> Why would we want to explain all of that (including the unwanted
 >> hits) to a naive user?

 Jim> I guess I don't see why 'GDB stops your program whenever the
 Jim> value of this expression changes' is hard to understand.
 Jim> Explaining conditional watchpoints is a superset of explaining
 Jim> watchpoints, so I don't see how it could be simpler.

The problem is that "watch xxx" stops whenever xxx is true" is an
obvious -- but wrong -- intuition of what the command does.

	paul

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-04 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-30 16:25 Vladimir Prus
2007-11-30 16:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-11-30 21:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-30 23:30   ` Jim Blandy
2007-11-30 23:49     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-03 17:54       ` Jim Blandy
2007-12-03 18:11         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-03 20:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 23:07           ` Jim Blandy
2007-12-04  4:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04  5:11               ` Michael Snyder
2007-12-04 17:24                 ` Jim Blandy
2007-12-04 17:30                   ` Paul Koning [this message]
2007-12-04 21:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 23:17                   ` Michael Snyder
2007-12-05 21:37                     ` Jim Blandy
2007-12-01  1:10 ` Russell Shaw
2007-12-01  1:46   ` Michael Snyder
2007-12-01  9:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04  2:04 ` Michael Snyder
2007-12-04  7:25   ` Vladimir Prus
2007-12-04 10:48     ` Michael Snyder
2007-12-04 14:07       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-04 21:08     ` Eli Zaretskii

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