From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18720 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2004 22:50:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 18683 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2004 22:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vaxjo.synopsys.com) (198.182.60.75) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 22:49:59 -0000 Received: from mother.synopsys.com (mother.synopsys.com [146.225.100.171]) by vaxjo.synopsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52D1DAF5; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piper.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mother.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15647; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbuck@localhost) by piper.synopsys.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i5FMnv205898; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:49:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: piper.synopsys.com: jbuck set sender to Joe.Buck@synopsys.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:50:00 -0000 From: Joe Buck To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Zack Weinberg , Ben Elliston , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, gdb@sources.redhat.com, binutils@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: removing src/expect Message-ID: <20040615154957.A5587@synopsys.com> References: <20040615141501.A19302@mailhub.air.net.au> <87zn74zevv.fsf@taltos.codesourcery.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from aoliva@redhat.com on Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:24:24PM -0300 X-SW-Source: 2004-06/txt/msg00162.txt.bz2 On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:24:24PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 15, 2004, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > > And on the other side, I have repeatedly been burnt by systems with > > tcl/expect headers installed globally which are incompatible with the > > stuff in /cvs/src. I'd be much happier if tcl/tk/expect were all > > three removed from src. > > My point is that you don't have to check them out if you don't want > to. If it's just there for those who need it, it can't possibly > hurt. The problem is that we then get test reports from two very distinct versions of dejagnu: an ancient, but hacked up version in the src tree, as well as currently released versions. I'd been using a dejagnu version from src/infrastructure for a long time and getting lots of bugs on Solaris others weren't seeing, until one day I went out and got the latest Tcl, Expect, and DejaGNU and suddenly started seeing almost zero failures. I understand your issue; you want to quickly get going to test some obsure platforms. I think that the way to go about it is to have a doc pointing to the exact correct versions of Tcl, Expect, and DejaGNU to use. We could even have a GARNOME-like facility to download and build the tarballs, for that matter.