From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@gnat.com>
To: Dave Korn <dk@artimi.com>
Cc: 'Andrew Cagney' <cagney@gnu.org>, 'Eli Zaretskii' <eliz@gnu.org>,
gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Formalizing the deprecation process in GDB
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:18:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041007180121.GL1282@gnat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NUTMEGYiufL0xJdQdSe00000308@NUTMEG.CAM.ARTIMI.COM>
> > A running joke between several of the GDB developers at the last GCC
> > summit was that we should present a 1hr paper titled "porting
> > GDB to a
> > new architecture". Only instead of presenting slides, we'd
> > just write the code.
>
> I find it hard to believe that's possible for anyone who comes to
> the code from fresh. You have spent years working with gdb and have
> the advantage of knowing your way round the code, and what the
> replacements for each deprecated thing are; anyone else has to do
> lots of research. If there's going to be a formalization of the
> deprecation process, my 'feature request' would be that there be one
> single central place where all deprecated features are listed
> together with brief pointers to the new functionality that has taken
> their place.
Yes, it would be hard for a newbie to port GDB to a different
architecture in an hour. Or I'd be very impressed :-).
Anyway, like in any project, there is a learning curve, and that
curve can be reduced to a certain degree by good documentation.
However, you have to balance the amount of document your write
and *maintain* with the amount of work this saves for some potential
contributor. I think that maintaining the list of deprecated features
in a separate document is going to be a large amount of work.
GDB is changing so fast. It's simpler to put that information directly
in the code, and most of the time, the information is actually already
there.
I have to say that GDB's learning curve is not that steep, compared
to other projects I have worked on. You don't necessarily need to
grab the whole picture before you can actually start working effectively
on it. I have been contributing to GDB for several years now, and
I honestly still think that I don't have a complete global view of
GDB yet. Some areas I know very well, I have a rough idea of the major
components, how they interact, but some important areas are still
unexplored territory. If I had this global view, I think I could
be promoted as global maintainer :-).
--
Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-07 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-27 17:55 Joel Brobecker
2004-09-27 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06 6:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-07 4:48 ` Joel Brobecker
2004-10-07 14:27 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 15:12 ` Joel Brobecker
2004-10-07 16:16 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-07 18:50 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 16:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-07 18:08 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 19:18 ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2004-10-07 19:28 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 7:08 ` Joel Brobecker
2004-10-08 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 8:54 ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-10-08 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 19:22 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-10 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 13:31 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 13:43 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 13:44 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 19:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 22:10 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-08 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-11 15:11 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-12 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-12 13:42 ` Mark Kettenis
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