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From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@gnat.com>
To: Dave Korn <dk@artimi.com>
Cc: 'Andrew Cagney' <cagney@gnu.org>, 'Eli Zaretskii' <eliz@gnu.org>,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Formalizing the deprecation process in GDB
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041007180121.GL1282@gnat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NUTMEGYiufL0xJdQdSe00000308@NUTMEG.CAM.ARTIMI.COM>

> > A running joke between several of the GDB developers at the last GCC 
> > summit was that we should present a 1hr paper titled "porting 
> > GDB to a 
> > new architecture".  Only instead of presenting slides, we'd 
> > just write the code.
> 
>   I find it hard to believe that's possible for anyone who comes to
>   the code from fresh.  You have spent years working with gdb and have
>   the advantage of knowing your way round the code, and what the
>   replacements for each deprecated thing are; anyone else has to do
>   lots of research.  If there's going to be a formalization of the
>   deprecation process, my 'feature request' would be that there be one
>   single central place where all deprecated features are listed
>   together with brief pointers to the new functionality that has taken
>   their place.

Yes, it would be hard for a newbie to port GDB to a different
architecture in an hour. Or I'd be very impressed :-).

Anyway, like in any project, there is a learning curve, and that
curve can be reduced to a certain degree by good documentation.
However, you have to balance the amount of document your write
and *maintain* with the amount of work this saves for some potential
contributor. I think that maintaining the list of deprecated features
in a separate document is going to be a large amount of work.
GDB is changing so fast.  It's simpler to put that information directly
in the code, and most of the time, the information is actually already
there.

I have to say that GDB's learning curve is not that steep, compared
to other projects I have worked on. You don't necessarily need to
grab the whole picture before you can actually start working effectively
on it. I have been contributing to GDB for several years now, and
I honestly still think that I don't have a complete global view of
GDB yet. Some areas I know very well, I have a rough idea of the major
components, how they interact, but some important areas are still
unexplored territory. If I had this global view, I think I could
be promoted as global maintainer :-).

-- 
Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-07 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-27 17:55 Joel Brobecker
2004-09-27 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-06  6:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-06 13:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-07  4:48     ` Joel Brobecker
2004-10-07 14:27       ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 15:12         ` Joel Brobecker
2004-10-07 16:16           ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-07 18:50             ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 16:14         ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-07 18:08           ` Dave Korn
2004-10-07 19:18             ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2004-10-07 19:28               ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08  7:08                 ` Joel Brobecker
2004-10-08 12:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 12:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08  8:54             ` Fabian Cenedese
2004-10-08 11:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 19:22             ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-10 21:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 10:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 13:31           ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 13:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 13:43               ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 13:44                 ` Dave Korn
2004-10-08 19:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 19:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-08 22:10             ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-08 10:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-11 15:11     ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-12  7:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-12 13:42         ` Mark Kettenis

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