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From: Kip Macy <kmacy@fsmware.com>
To: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
Cc: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com, cagney@redhat.com, ezannoni@redhat.com,
	fnasser@redhat.com
Subject: Re: patch review time
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:15:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050305141427.M49469@demos.bsdclusters.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050305220619.GA4481@white>

I think Bob may be trying to say that he'd like to be a maintainer ;-)



On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Bob Rossi wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:32:40AM +1300, Nick Roberts wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, 2 of the MI MAINTAINERS completely do *nothing*. They don't respond
> > > to Emails, they don't review patches, and as far as I can tell, do
> > > nothing behind the scene.
> >
> > > Shouldn't they be removed from this position, since, IMO, they are *not*
> > > maintaining the code. I think having 3 maintainers under the section
> >
> > >   mi (gdb/mi)             Andrew Cagney     cagney@redhat.com
> > >                           Elena Zannoni     ezannoni@redhat.com
> > >                           Fernando Nasser   fnasser@redhat.com
> >
> > > is misleading. Since Andrew is the *only* one I can tell is maintaining
> > > code for MI, even if it's not at the speed that I desire.
> >
> > Hang on. Let's be pragmatic. How will things get *better* if they are removed.
> > They are the original authors and know the code better than the rest of us.
> > We don't know what their committments/current interests are. At the moment,
> > they might contribute at some time in the future. If they are removed then
> > presumably they won't.
>
> Nothing is stopping them from contributing now or in the future. As far as I
> can tell, things will not get better with them in or not in the MAINTAINERS
> file. I don't even get responses from them when I send Emails.
>
> I guess I don't really care if they are noted as MAINTAINERS even if
> they don't maintain the code. I just want to make it clear that there is
> 1 active maintainer, not 3.
>
> > Bob, you're not the only one whose e-mails go ignored. Answering questions,
> > reviewing patches takes up time. Unpaid time. If my e-mail is unanswered, it
> > tells me something: either people aren't interested or they are too busy.
> > Sometimes I let it go, sometimes I realise it was a stupid question, and
> > sometimes I send another e-mail and try to add something to get a reply.
>
> I don't really care about the "unpaid" time business. My time goes
> unpaid as well, so I see it as a clean slate, we're all even here.
>
> Answering Emails and reviewing patches are some of the job's of a maintainer.
> My Emails and patches are ignored often, this tells me that there is no
> MAINTAINER that has time/interested in having another contributer improve
> upon the MI code base. This tells me that there is a lack of active maintainers
> in the area.
>
> I'm going to contribute a large amount to GDB/MI and get it done within a
> reasonable amount of time, or I'm not going to be able to. The point of
> this Email thread is to bring up the fact that I simply can not wait
> months and months to get what I need to get done, done.
>
> Bob Rossi
>

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-05 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-05 20:34 Nick Roberts
2005-03-05 22:06 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-05 22:15   ` Kip Macy [this message]
2005-03-06 13:45     ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-06 15:57       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-06 18:06         ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-06  0:11   ` Russell Shaw
2005-03-06 13:48     ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-06 18:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-06 20:17         ` Daniel Berlin
2005-03-06 20:29         ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-07  4:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-07 23:49             ` Bob Rossi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-03 15:02 Bob Rossi
2005-03-04  7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-04 14:26   ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-04 14:59     ` Dave Korn
2005-03-04 15:36       ` 'Bob Rossi'
2005-03-04 15:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-04 15:54       ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-04 17:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-04 22:17           ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-05 11:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-05 15:27               ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-05 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-05 17:17                   ` Kip Macy
2005-03-06  4:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-06  6:24                       ` Kip Macy
2005-03-06 18:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-06 20:20                           ` Bob Rossi

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