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From: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
To: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com, cagney@redhat.com, ezannoni@redhat.com,
	fnasser@redhat.com
Subject: Re: patch review time
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050305220619.GA4481@white> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16938.5992.336181.640228@farnswood.snap.net.nz>

On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:32:40AM +1300, Nick Roberts wrote:
> 
> > BTW, 2 of the MI MAINTAINERS completely do *nothing*. They don't respond
> > to Emails, they don't review patches, and as far as I can tell, do
> > nothing behind the scene.
> 
> > Shouldn't they be removed from this position, since, IMO, they are *not*
> > maintaining the code. I think having 3 maintainers under the section
> 
> >   mi (gdb/mi)             Andrew Cagney     cagney@redhat.com
> >                           Elena Zannoni     ezannoni@redhat.com
> >                           Fernando Nasser   fnasser@redhat.com
> 
> > is misleading. Since Andrew is the *only* one I can tell is maintaining
> > code for MI, even if it's not at the speed that I desire.
> 
> Hang on. Let's be pragmatic. How will things get *better* if they are removed.
> They are the original authors and know the code better than the rest of us.
> We don't know what their committments/current interests are. At the moment,
> they might contribute at some time in the future. If they are removed then
> presumably they won't.

Nothing is stopping them from contributing now or in the future. As far as I 
can tell, things will not get better with them in or not in the MAINTAINERS 
file. I don't even get responses from them when I send Emails.

I guess I don't really care if they are noted as MAINTAINERS even if
they don't maintain the code. I just want to make it clear that there is
1 active maintainer, not 3.

> Bob, you're not the only one whose e-mails go ignored. Answering questions,
> reviewing patches takes up time. Unpaid time. If my e-mail is unanswered, it
> tells me something: either people aren't interested or they are too busy.
> Sometimes I let it go, sometimes I realise it was a stupid question, and
> sometimes I send another e-mail and try to add something to get a reply.

I don't really care about the "unpaid" time business. My time goes
unpaid as well, so I see it as a clean slate, we're all even here.

Answering Emails and reviewing patches are some of the job's of a maintainer.
My Emails and patches are ignored often, this tells me that there is no 
MAINTAINER that has time/interested in having another contributer improve 
upon the MI code base. This tells me that there is a lack of active maintainers 
in the area.

I'm going to contribute a large amount to GDB/MI and get it done within a 
reasonable amount of time, or I'm not going to be able to. The point of
this Email thread is to bring up the fact that I simply can not wait
months and months to get what I need to get done, done.

Bob Rossi

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-05 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-05 20:34 Nick Roberts
2005-03-05 22:06 ` Bob Rossi [this message]
2005-03-05 22:15   ` Kip Macy
2005-03-06 13:45     ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-06 15:57       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-06 18:06         ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-06  0:11   ` Russell Shaw
2005-03-06 13:48     ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-06 18:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-06 20:17         ` Daniel Berlin
2005-03-06 20:29         ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-07  4:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-07 23:49             ` Bob Rossi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-03 15:02 Bob Rossi
2005-03-04  7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-04 14:26   ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-04 14:59     ` Dave Korn
2005-03-04 15:36       ` 'Bob Rossi'
2005-03-04 15:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-04 15:54       ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-04 17:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-04 22:17           ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-05 11:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-05 15:27               ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-05 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-05 17:17                   ` Kip Macy
2005-03-06  4:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-06  6:24                       ` Kip Macy
2005-03-06 18:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-06 20:20                           ` Bob Rossi

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