From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19168 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2005 02:13:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 19057 invoked by uid 22791); 30 Aug 2005 02:13:24 -0000 Received: from tully.cs.berkeley.edu (HELO tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU) (128.32.153.227) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.30-dev) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:13:24 +0000 Received: from tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.7/8.12.7/3.141592645) with ESMTP id j7U1wG9S013288; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU (hilfingr@localhost) by tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) with ESMTP id j7U1wFhZ013284; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200508300158.j7U1wFhZ013284@tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: James E Wilson , gdb@sourceware.org, sje@cup.hp.com, binutils@sourceware.org cc: Hilfinger@gnat.com Subject: Re: HP gdb/wdb sources available In-Reply-To: Message from Daniel Jacobowitz of "Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:13:28 EDT." <20050830011328.GA11747@nevyn.them.org> Reply-To: Hilfinger@gnat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <13280.1125367094.1@tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:13:00 -0000 From: Paul Hilfinger X-SW-Source: 2005-08/txt/msg00119.txt.bz2 > > Simply placing the files on an FSF machine does not constitute a > > copyright assignment. A copyright assignment requires a piece of paper > > with appropriate language approved by the FSF and signed by a VP or > > higher at HP that covers the code in question. (And by the way, this > > isn't an FSF machine, so by placing something here, you haven't actually > > given it to the FSF.) > > > > Also, your copyright assignment only covers code that you wrote > > yourself. If you give code to the FSF, that does not cause the code to > > be covered by your copyright assignment. We need a copyright assignment > > from the original author of the code. If HP has a corporate assignment, > > then that would be sufficient. Otherwise, we need personal assignments > > from everyone that helped write the code, along with corporate > > disclaimers for each person. If you haven't been keeping records of who > > wrote which piece of code (such as FSF style ChangeLog entries), then > > only a corporate assignment will do. > > I am inclined to agree with Jim's concerns about copyright assignments. > > I took a look at copyright.list, and could not figure out whether this > was covered by HP's prior assignments; they have a number of > assignments covering GDB but I don't think any of them were "and future > changes". AdaCore and HP had a little conference-call discussion on this matter (which included some of HP's legal staff) some weeks ago, leading to this particular course of action. HP should really comment on this to confirm my impression, of course, since I cannot speak for them. Basically, my recollection is that HP's understanding of their assignment was that certain specified individuals within HP are authorized to select and contribute parts of HP's source code for Binutils, GCC, Glibc, and GDB and that these contributions are defined to be what is assigned by HP to the FSF. Ted Teah at the FSF seemed to agree with this assessment when I mailed him about it. So, yes, while merely placing files on the FSF site (or checking them in, for that matter) does not normally in itself constitute copyright assignment, it does by this agreement. Paul Hilfinger