From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
To: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
Cc: Doug Evans <dje@google.com>,
Meador Inge <meadori@codesourcery.com>,
gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Using Py_SetPythonHome
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:13:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121003151244.GA22734@host2.jankratochvil.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121002130854.GL30746@adacore.com>
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:08:54 +0200, Joel Brobecker wrote:
> And to me, this is not violating "standard system
> packagainng practices" (please point me to a document that would claim
> to explain what the standard practices are),
I follow
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Beware_of_Rpath
which is sure Fedora specific but in this part it can be considered as
a general GNU/Linux behavior, I am willing to discuss packaging guidelines of
other distros.
> but providing a very
> important feature, which, if not standard, definitely should be (IMO).
I really do not say anything whether this feature should be standard or not.
Maybe it should be standard, indeed. That is completely offtopic here.
Show me any common GNU/Linux distro with >= 1% of packages using this feature.
There is not any. Which proves to me it is not a standard feature.
If it should be a standard feature:
* These relocation functions should be moved as a GNU extension to glibc.
* GNU Coding Standards should be extended for it.
* etc.
I do not see any attempt to do this part, which is what I find inappropriate
on this feature.
> If I have built a tool somewhere with a given prefix, and then I want
> to install a copy somewhere else, it would be a real pain in the neck
> to have to rebuild it.
There already exist various methods to deal with it, a standardized one is
/usr/sbin/alternatives (chkconfig package) which requires no specific upstream
support from a package. Then there are per-package hacks like ENV variables
documented in a man page but they are still more clear than this surprising
relocation.
> Going back to the actual subject of this discussion, would it cause
> a problem to call Py_SetPythonHome in your situation where everything
> is static and installed at the default location?
Yes, it is a problem because 99.9% of other Python-using packages behave
differently.
Thanks,
Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-03 15:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-12 23:23 Meador Inge
2012-09-17 17:07 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-09-17 17:46 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-09-18 19:38 ` Doug Evans
2012-09-19 8:04 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-09-21 15:37 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-09-21 15:44 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-09-21 15:58 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-09-21 17:28 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-02 13:09 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-10-03 15:13 ` Jan Kratochvil [this message]
2012-10-03 15:14 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-03 15:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-10-03 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 17:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-03 17:57 ` Paul_Koning
2012-10-03 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 18:43 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-03 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 19:03 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-03 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 19:54 ` Paul_Koning
2012-10-03 20:04 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-03 20:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2012-10-03 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 19:26 ` Terekhov, Mikhail
2012-10-04 7:33 ` John Gilmore
2012-10-11 8:42 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-10-11 14:54 ` Doug Evans
2012-09-21 15:55 ` Meador Inge
2012-09-21 16:01 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-09-21 16:36 ` Doug Evans
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