From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82c.google.com (mail-qt1-x82c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25DD4384801B for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:31:30 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 25DD4384801B Received: by mail-qt1-x82c.google.com with SMTP id l13so1500461qtu.9 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:31:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=44EwDdt4tHTuDmtOJqb8lYk9CC5jZyswB+cdNM2R8Zw=; b=gV6FxHqF0jDrte0Igu1BibIycjP7guV9ZB8vC4kJrK+MgFREma69gJv7HD8yCVJQoN Gv68zsu/A3vJT0CNkeNK01kH8uLpBOdwyK5etm5elJNZAxQdnZ+sZ7q91tEAOhMNwPO3 kMGoKXJ6xGsR19BhBOGmaFmmP0CKiRskfnh6LdOFoQkhORkjJDop6aE653bgQPUGcBMj xfd1oW0R7g7EjLcHOyWPgbl4MnuovF7w1CwFLUMC7pQEeV7AamkxoaGZW4OkXvHUErLf f/H39TRB37QRuXsC59OmickieeJX9VjGmNexWtCXEL+LmzoKF6sXl5NA0gnLCdzd+9hz 396w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533rAyO/v0HFr5VM/d2/5MESAuTd3FLWQWYbmmo8+VUCraeg4mUQ prm0nfZrmfAc2DJcnFtrEoe6+wj7eYnlHQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxFNFWaZfW+857uBhpthgJO8oB7nu3aMYxC2EuP6mhwYC5KNt3DGaYvQjSje1xrWrCaQ9p3vQ== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4750:: with SMTP id k16mr4142204qtp.239.1615991489589; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2804:7f0:4841:2841:c502:89bb:c3bf:f9a1? ([2804:7f0:4841:2841:c502:89bb:c3bf:f9a1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o21sm15492856qtp.72.2021.03.17.07.31.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: sim: replacing ChangeLog files with online git logs To: Eli Zaretskii , Mike Frysinger Cc: gdb@sourceware.org References: <83ft0zjys1.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfarhwjq.fsf@gnu.org> <83eegjhuuq.fsf@gnu.org> <8335wyj461.fsf@gnu.org> <83tup9disi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Luis Machado Message-ID: <2012fb21-38f2-3d1c-62c8-52d94d19e243@linaro.org> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:31:25 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83tup9disi.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:31:31 -0000 On 3/17/21 10:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii via Gdb wrote: >> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 02:07:46 -0400 >> From: Mike Frysinger >> Cc: gdb@sourceware.org, andrew.burgess@embecosm.com >> >>> That's a different conclusions. You asked what people are doing with >>> the ChangeLogs, not whether it was mandatory to keep them. >> >> that's fair. my point/goal was that if there aren't requirements for it, >> and there isn't a compelling use case for keeping them, then the easiest >> thing is to do nothing and delete them. >> >> it seems that there isn't a requirement -> > > Indeed, there's no mandatory requirement to keep the files, not > anymore. > >> i'm skeptical that the logs add value as anyone who is going to contribute >> by diving into the source history would be online w/git access -> >> we punt the logs and stop wasting lots of developer time. > > I'm not sure I agree with your skepticism. And OTOH, producing the > ChangeLog from Git logs takes mere seconds and wastes no development > time. So I think on balance there's very little price to pay for > something that some people may value. Why refuse to pay that small > price and humor those few people? > Are you proposing simply feeding the git log through the script and saving that to a file? Even if the output is less detailed than the ChangeLog entries we have now?