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From: Gary Benson <gbenson@redhat.com>
To: Sandra Loosemore <sandra@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	Paul_Koning@Dell.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GDB now takes 4 minutes to start up with remote gdbserver target
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150727121454.GA15226@blade.nx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B27348.1020104@codesourcery.com>

Sandra Loosemore wrote:
> On 07/24/2015 10:05 AM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> > On 07/24/2015 04:27 PM, Paul_Koning@Dell.com wrote:
> > > But having sysroot default to target is also a bad idea for lots
> > > of other people.  Consider embedded systems: you presumably have
> > > stripped images there, but unstripped ones on your build host.
> > 
> > But in that scenario, with the old default sysroot, how was gdb
> > finding the binaries on the build host?  The binaries on the
> > equilalent locations on the host's root will certainly not match
> > the embedded/target system's.  In that scenario, you must have
> > been pointing the "set sysroot" somewhere local?  And if you do
> > that, nothing changes in 7.10, gdb will still access the files on
> > the local filesystem.
> > 
> > From the discussion so far, it seems that the only case that ends
> > up regressing is the case where the host and target share both the
> > filesystem, and the host/target paths match.  I don't know off
> > hand how to make gdb aware of that automatically.
> 
> There's also the case where the host and target sysroot locations do
> not match at all.  As I said, this used to work reasonably well for
> application debugging, where the user isn't interested in debugging
> shared libraries and doesn't care if the shared library symbol
> information isn't available to GDB.  It used to print a helpful
> message suggesting using "set sysroot" if the user wants the shared
> library information, instead of hanging on startup with no
> indication of what the trouble is or how to fix it.  I can't see the
> new default behavior as an improvement over the old.
> 
> > That seems like enough of a special case that could well be
> > handled by an explicit "set sysroot /" in e.g., the toolchain's
> > system-gdbinit, or by building gdb with "--with-sysroot=/".
> 
> There are a bunch of possible workarounds for this, but why can't we
> make GDB "just work" by default, as it used to, instead of requiring
> users to build GDB differently or install a workaround or issue
> extra commands manually that they didn't used to need at all?

I have an idea for a solution to this.  I should know in a few hours
if it can work.  Tomorrow morning at the very latest.

Thanks,
Gary

-- 
http://gbenson.net/

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-27 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-23 23:21 Sandra Loosemore
2015-07-24  2:39 ` Sandra Loosemore
2015-07-24  8:52   ` Gary Benson
2015-07-24 13:59     ` Sandra Loosemore
2015-07-24 14:08       ` Paul_Koning
2015-07-24 15:11         ` Gary Benson
2015-07-24 15:27           ` Paul_Koning
2015-07-24 16:36             ` Pedro Alves
2015-07-24 16:58               ` Paul_Koning
2015-07-28 22:12                 ` Pedro Alves
2015-07-24 17:19               ` Sandra Loosemore
2015-07-27 12:22                 ` Gary Benson [this message]
2015-07-28  9:25                   ` Gary Benson
2015-07-28 15:22                     ` Sandra Loosemore
2015-07-29 10:00                       ` Gary Benson
2015-07-28 15:38                     ` Gary Benson
2015-07-28 17:04                     ` Doug Evans
2015-07-28 22:13                 ` Pedro Alves
2015-07-29  1:32                   ` Sandra Loosemore
2015-07-26 20:03               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2015-07-26 20:06                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2015-07-26 20:50                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2015-07-28 16:55     ` Doug Evans
2015-07-28 22:14       ` Pedro Alves
2015-07-29 10:39         ` Gary Benson
2015-07-29 16:54           ` Jan Kratochvil
2015-07-29 10:15       ` Gary Benson
2015-07-24 10:34   ` Gary Benson
2015-07-24 16:05     ` Sandra Loosemore

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