From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BB013858C53 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:28:18 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 3BB013858C53 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 3BB013858C53 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=170.10.133.124 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713205700; cv=none; b=arZlCEURdI1Bmr3Y9X/JpzrF72AEJrucmM9NJSjI7mD5qW3R7WEDD3Vj8jc+MjCHywHn3/1QbvQ0jaqJArIivy2YSgYGTxAjviWYAbUXrwwh3Y5Z1Ivp5GC8spYW1nnhOh1061w2VTrGWoHD1hVmxIosF9EYC5diFnT0EocaK20= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713205700; c=relaxed/simple; bh=lDtwPd1SnvTHnTjef+OE45e/PuEMpL1f5RRkvbRUeV0=; h=DKIM-Signature:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=XHXDZARm932d2P0fwjF6Bk1X5cOYhSK2WD8ot4qtrNkaQMeVkdcpP0gs4hvPu6XYZXt/Fwecf0E3kJLVD4NJMtHWzULjeLYWloDw7LgzmV4bkYUs+WWumDdvvK0iZd4mrEo2b/zWviQHhth8WDGj9rwOk4jEWyalZp7/MZ41s24= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1713205697; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PaSRKiAoj0fabfUVWfU4L1upx532Rb/BHi1VsSWK5cs=; b=Fyjn9n88K1QbZKdJrqhbG/0fSQA21Th4zg06Qh97XlR0XaWZqIVsEUYDQOjrL6U7LCA63x RJh2L5CTSDcKO+KRQzgBz3/cfrScDtpIfI9M+VIpO8izAMNqY8f7U05G4hZtGZ+kQBAzOh LRssC4E23A7ZuQGc1AAzTeJRL4Dfe04= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-636-yqevAZ1GNl-9ZWQ09MQZjw-1; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 14:28:16 -0400 X-MC-Unique: yqevAZ1GNl-9ZWQ09MQZjw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1594F8877C0; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.22.8.11]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0627018209F; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fche by redhat.com with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rwR3v-0000Uj-45; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 14:28:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 14:28:15 -0400 From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" To: Joel Brobecker Cc: gdb@sourceware.org Subject: Re: value of gdbadmin effort to create gdb daily/weekly source tarballs Message-ID: <20240415182815.GA1423@redhat.com> References: <20240415143428.GA24230@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.0 (2019-05-25) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.11.54.1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi, Joel - > > Would you like me to check logs as to how many accesses to this have > > taken place? (A very rough brief search indicated 99%+ were bots like > > search engines and ai ingesters.) > > If this isn't too much effort, that would give some factual data > that would hopefully turn the decision into a no-brainer. Doing a more thorough search: % zgrep pub/gdb/snapsho sourceware-combined_log* | fgrep .xz | egrep -iv 'bingbot|googlebot|amazonbot|gptbot|yandex|semrush|googleother|3BSZgF|crawler|8.219|8.222'| wc -l 12969 % zgrep pub/gdb/snapsho sourceware-combined_log* | fgrep .xz | egrep -i 'bingbot|googlebot|amazonbot|gptbot|yandex|semrush|googleother|3BSZgF|crawler|8.219|8.222' | wc -l 35001 i.e., 35001 tarball/diff downloads by known-to-be-bots and 12969 by not-definitely-bots, over three months. But I'm pretty sure most of those 12969's are also bots, just not identifying themselves with user-agent or other obvious-definite-botness signs. > Personally, I'm having a hard time seeing this as being sufficiently > useful to be worth the effort (speaking as the only person who gets > the alerts when the process breaks, and thus goes to fix it afterwards). Yeah. > [...] > On the other hand, it does act a periodic test of the script being > src-release.sh script staying operational. But if that were the only > reason we had, we can preserve this as a pure test, where we do > a periodic source packaging, but instead of saving it for people > to download, we simple discard it. Or: try running it monthly rather than daily, dropping the diffs. - FChE