From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24466 invoked by alias); 15 Sep 2005 20:12:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 24454 invoked by uid 22791); 15 Sep 2005 20:12:22 -0000 Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (HELO mail-out3.apple.com) (17.254.13.22) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.30-dev) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:12:22 +0000 Received: from relay6.apple.com (a17-128-113-36.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8FKCIuJ022773; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.219.198.188] (unknown [17.219.198.188]) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id E87BB51B; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4329D5A3.8030202@apple.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:12:00 -0000 From: Stan Shebs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Molenda Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gdb@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: Using reverse execution References: <432628AA.2040808@apple.com> <43277083.1040708@apple.com> <4328A574.5080906@apple.com> <43290862.9040204@apple.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2005-09/txt/msg00110.txt.bz2 Jason Molenda wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Anyway, one of the latest issues of DrDobb's ran an article about >> debuggers that support similar features, with pointers to existing >> products, so you could try to find them to get some ideas about >> usability of this feature. > > > > June 2005, issue #373, "Omniscient Debugging" by Bil Lewis. > http://www.lambdacs.com/debugger/debugger.html > The whole omniscient debugging thing is actually a good example of why I'm asking questions about user experience - while there are lots of people interested, it gets magazine writeups, etc, there is very little feedback from actual users that I could find. (Despite the date of the Dr Dobbs article, this particular project goes back a couple years.) Real user experience with ODB would be especially interesting because it is strictly about walking around in collected trace data; it's not possible to execute anything a second time. Stan