From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from welcomehome.org (gnashdev.org [65.183.81.79]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DE533851C0D for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:13:32 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 1DE533851C0D Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=welcomehome.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=rob@welcomehome.org Received: from eyes.moongulch.net (dsl.moongulch.net [216.160.182.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by welcomehome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 05JFBV1j021415 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:11:46 -0600 Subject: Re: GDB testsuite overrides default_target_compile and breaks To: Tom Tromey Cc: gdb@sourceware.org, "dejagnu@gnu.org" References: <87zhac871g.fsf@euler.schwinge.homeip.net> <274e2a71-ddb0-18cc-70c1-4ca9ccf8bd29@welcomehome.org> <9a017568-911d-9352-859a-8721b2f47c53@welcomehome.org> <29b3fe32-b3c9-653e-2ef3-6e89083188f6@welcomehome.org> <3e294014-8205-c99c-ecc7-3e9d383e5587@welcomehome.org> <5EE04696.8090209@gmail.com> <5EE05F15.4070408@gmail.com> <5EE19A64.9010307@gmail.com> <875zbnz00s.fsf@tromey.com> From: Rob Savoye Autocrypt: addr=rob@welcomehome.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQGiBEezIb8RBACsVR1XKKx2+bmShsPssv98frN9CRwnpRwx+aZhCL2FbpxIn00FkpCg8lHg ftFKxNytbyIdXvqKKVQFd75wIsszjAs07M5dTRfWkunkQ8FR6RKRJuzNkGG6YR7k7YDE3f1k 5K/k54Y1aTgP2rhsn10bX537VV3gIRpknNyfNCNL8wCglCTxTOuqiVGTG/gOTo96f94Q0/kD /2EDQFYYUx17rxlyYJIvF7cfYvkw7nvBMZn0u/kDKirwPs6Sx2o30TxvvgjA55HTN6UNVwiL Iglr3DyBgi6LGD7RAxMG15FnK4xx28wmu8EXYDJuNqbsy+PoPs1pMdlsVERIJfzDmG65/pAD LFRymDL2DgnU9v/pH0HrLwY34A5kA/9Ywdn7G3FFR/oR/WGEavzM+mvYq2GRSDLEobaGRdPp tAEUpyMGsCVUG8TIWRA9B6CHD0YTh2kLKIH7QK6/3fcnROCrCd3/dIYwkaQV0Icrl17eUpLX 1xBmbR7ji3inCd58uceQBIksKdrcqeFB5yB6RBWPpgDELg020x7x6UhKSLkCDQRHsyG/EAgA uU0hNVK0CfKhFVzUBCcSXCn+Ck7sh7oFYdMKJyg6t3r56sWtgzlSuq1k1jwaDlaOSwF9DO0z KHSdJ2KvmoheBGxbUfSguUbgGC8XvERuaMHaHaCIal2D6MdisbL5w4QGtKmTSGjlqZj1tCS7 s6LBHrQAkVkBSBSv12sl4wz8tbL1aublznu/5LXusg2wmae+ynRbubnggAdDGIJv+AQsbYL+ yukEZkFT+AvJzCENFEaBxRj6B7obBx9eSKcRgv0ON0CghiM2iYN6iuUzhcaBl+v9+4XR9tDm vR2s/CBP0A14yNRXQ+B9HG/kzmSLSHttY9jiySO91YbRsrWZbn2wxwAECwgAn5vmpCw2T4/H gu14o9qnY4Lr0PPp9uCw9T7oaZDdjibZSvcgc9WabUuSP6BOlcpE84d92gGJn0mTvuTsSf6Z yWNYj0Rdt71MZbstU/lUfXmOBS3bwhas0LnH4zmoOZJ2/IvZT8hbfrld3eQCeT347rkBt2vM g4RZEXutvpQUDtT6HO+v202/hHgwlLZppy/QgTaUAZcYOoIw72/OR6Mb2y7gROJyYEAw/DJD Jf0KXIn5kpsrSDiEJHTW7YBDx1opnp+FwhRBUb2xGr7ldZcZxrOmjEHMAHzAi6vcG4gdlhZ4 /UwTkycgftroQ+nNhyhwY9UXdD02ab6eZzjIE9Pc/YhJBBgRAgAJBQJHsyG/AhsMAAoJEFC5 oRCgttP+kZcAnjB3S9tuyK9PqDKzEcoovKs/LowRAJ9griQbLMDG7R9HvCLOfvg9iRGH1A== Message-ID: <4f7bedf1-d028-d3ee-b3d9-30d2c29006ce@welcomehome.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:11:31 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <875zbnz00s.fsf@tromey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, TXREP, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR, T_SPF_PERMERROR autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:13:33 -0000 On 6/19/20 6:57 AM, Tom Tromey wrote: > FWIW this makes sense to me. I think it's never been a great idea to > have this override in gdb. Dejagnu wasn't very actively maintained for > a long time, and had low engagement from gdb developers, so it was more > like a convenient way to move forward. Post Cygnus, DejaGnu has never had any funding, and working on it rarely got any support from management or clients. It's been relying on volunteer labor for over 20 years... I totally understand GDB developers extending things for GDB as the most efficient way to get their job done. But while there is some activity, it'd be nice to migrate those improvements where possible to DejaGnu for the next release. Thanks for being open to getting this cleaned up sooner than later. - rob -