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From: jtc@redback.com (J.T. Conklin)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>
Cc: guinan@bluebutton.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Asynchronous GDB
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5m1yuiubkw.fsf@jtc.redback.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1659-Thu04Jan2001225150+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il>

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:10:05 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Jamie Guinan <guinan@bluebutton.com>
>> 
>> I'm interested in GDB's ability to run asynchronously, like being able to
>> examine and modify values without stopping the debugged program.  

Eli> Forgive me a possibly stupid question, but what does it mean, in
Eli> practice, to examine and modify values without stopping the debugged
Eli> program?  If the debuggee continues to run, the values continue to
Eli> change right under your feet, yes?  So how do you make sense out of
Eli> several values you examine, without having a clue whether they are
Eli> consistent with each other or not?

While you're correct that it's difficult to debug a live system, in
some cases it can also be the only way a bug can tracked down.

For example, consider debugging a aggregation router that "can't" go
down.  It mostly works, so the customer doesn't want to boot many of
their paying customers for you to track down the bug.  With a little
luck, you can peek around global data structures, memory mapped i/o
registers, etc. and get a idea of what might be wrong.  If not, well,
you've done your best.

I've done this a bit myself under vxWorks.  When you connect to the
WDB agent and not connected to a task, you can still read and write
memory.  I wish the remote protocol was the same way.

        --jtc

-- 
J.T. Conklin
RedBack Networks

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-04 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-04 12:10 Jamie Guinan
2001-01-04 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-01-04 15:10   ` Jamie Guinan
2001-01-04 15:44   ` J.T. Conklin [this message]
2001-01-05  2:30 James Cownie
2001-01-30 12:19 ` Andrew Cagney

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