From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dog.birch.relay.mailchannels.net (dog.birch.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.209.48]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51926385841D; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 13:46:16 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 51926385841D Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=gotplt.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gotplt.org X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|siddhesh@gotplt.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159463E1137; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 13:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a307 (unknown [127.0.0.6]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 647363E16A8; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 13:46:12 +0000 (UTC) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=arc-2022; d=mailchannels.net; t=1664891172; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=uuqF9TaKrH1LX2Ana8q7hjhO8LxXy+Q01e+Er/anUFY4kLW8UPlyicG0Tja1qt7vKMhxVq LCd9om/Dyhjz4j7C/OZ7w2vkgN2+IGyBdJX5Bt2khmyJajVOFWum7t7M1sVyaeCXgK5/f+ 56qhuDcnIUeNVnUnQHmLR8gEp/ZCxBMO7fSJ9miP+iZX7lk/opZhipTNQaq+PlZiXJSaKk t9TArZGYxtjtMAUlC1znKV6pUbqyxrDXDU9l/WqO0WWPoEcgqcPdWARwJbBaCUtInDZSxK bUlIr+Fxlv/9kEnWN0QJhG8fkuCmTwcl+CbCcHtPhR7mjFBvlxwsVj1SYS7t4w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailchannels.net; s=arc-2022; t=1664891172; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=81EgerDPc/tXLSxahPuPf1F6492OZbpFDZouaTkBmeo=; b=PtY5nKAhdW4ILCutcwFLU+PCuH+I0Ck3gRKvlswkBPvowTSfb2RN5Mj9+UwUY3v9g4Ku+J vCjAo2n6njdTo05hAOcdRrClJ0/ToALF9lgPY3vlo2vGaDH3IEIee/3jkCTNwdSbIybFxi BD8Y4pXpSu8Tk3GXwl9RIf/ZqoT7jtxU512Wv3enm7fNDOQLsYV1X1+HgXFuRrOEWTlcKW 4Z/s6b/m7auljkliM2ESIQ/78Y9FhWi+Sfu9TI548EVeeBAUEXY+Pm2s1rNLSLI1PZVoFk TURab5wWe8DZodCB3EXzPjYaq76FdRAtYhr91lARALL+mximd2egtGZ7lbD18w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; rspamd-7c485dd8cf-nj54t; auth=pass smtp.auth=dreamhost smtp.mailfrom=siddhesh@gotplt.org X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|siddhesh@gotplt.org X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|siddhesh@gotplt.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Skirt-Abiding: 5fb0719f09048643_1664891172877_3216237475 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1664891172877:2727370357 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1664891172877 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a307 (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by 100.97.77.221 (trex/6.7.1); Tue, 04 Oct 2022 13:46:12 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.182] (bras-vprn-toroon4834w-lp130-16-184-147-84-238.dsl.bell.ca [184.147.84.238]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: siddhesh@gotplt.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a307 (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Mhf9t2XMBz64; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 06:46:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gotplt.org; s=dreamhost; t=1664891171; bh=81EgerDPc/tXLSxahPuPf1F6492OZbpFDZouaTkBmeo=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ro+r3OJgdK3BQaenIh3CRdtML3y0POwdSG7ICTRxVwfCgB05dL5bU3WcERfJa+1Dq N/O1MTCQ7nsrSM/Wqg2XT1M5nTKkcdyKlp+9bXywDhq3kvYk14L3bLBKFNnsg6JpTe xKZT5iKcJXIE+HmkcYPuMrgNKvCc8RYPJhdx19LSiqu5QFabnSJcwZUXiCWd070NIj 921eHYwvjU6Se284tKVkXSfIWooovQPhSfmZLa2g574o2DeplGtcoHqScGdgCXsLDs gj1FCxc/b4HCWy5roOHzdlG/ROgBLqsh0WEqciPsTkHIK9GvV3dRCEP1a/XJd8fmOA +89tovvynqVlQ== Message-ID: <6f6d141b-b776-8707-2c91-dc38d20aa9e1@gotplt.org> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 09:46:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.12.0 Subject: Re: The GNU Toolchain Infrastructure Project Content-Language: en-US To: Overseers mailing list Cc: Mark Wielaard , gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: From: Siddhesh Poyarekar In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3032.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,KAM_SHORT,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 2022-10-02 16:47, Mark Wielaard via Overseers wrote: >> I've published the current GTI TAC meeting minutes to the glibc website: >> https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/gti-tac/index.html >> >> The slides from the LF IT are a good overview: >> https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/gti-tac/LF%20IT%20Core%20Projects%20Services.pdf > > I assume www.gnu.org was the easiest way for you to quickly make these > things public. But it now does look like it is an official FSF/GNU > proposal. Which I assume wasn't your intention. Note that it contains > a copyright notice "© 2022, GTI TAC." but doesn't seem to have a > (free) license. Which is kind of necessary if you host it on > www.gnu.org. Minutes moved here: https://gti.gotplt.org/tac/ https://gti.gotplt.org/tac/LF%20IT%20Core%20Projects%20Services.pdf I own gotplt.org and am happy to lend the subdomain for now to help coordinate this because I think the LF proposal is the best long term way forward for the GNU toolchain projects to remain competitive *and* Free. To be clear, I don't think there are any qualms about adding a license notice here but we'd have to agree on one. I made and shared this copy to dispel any further false speculation of scope creep of the GTI proposal. For any content attributable to me in the meeting minutes, I'm happy to release it under any free license the TAC may agree on. Sid