From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.netbsd.org (mail.NetBSD.org [IPv6:2001:470:a085:999::25]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAA53394343E for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:17:51 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org AAA53394343E Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=netbsd.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kamil@netbsd.org Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.netbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5DF84CCD; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:17:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Luis Machado , "gdb@sourceware.org" , kamil@moritz.systems References: From: Kamil Rytarowski Autocrypt: addr=kamil@netbsd.org; keydata= mQINBFVwUF8BEADHmOg7PFLIcSDdMx5HNDYr8MY2ExGfUTrKwPndbt3peaa5lHsK+UGoPG48 KiWkhEaMmjaXHFa7XgVpJHhFmNoJXfPgjI/sOKTMCPQ5DEHEHTibC4mta7IBAk+rmnaOF0k8 bxHfP8Qbls66wvicrAfTRXn/1ReeNc3NP4Sq39PoVHkfQTlnQiD4eAqBdq61B7DhzjhbKAZ4 RsNtLfB6eOv9qvmblUzs50ChYewM9hvn+c7MdDH+x2UXoSDhkBDkKcJGkX91evos8s9AuoEd D32X5e+bmdUGe8Cr3cAZJ8IEXR6F9828/kxzPliMsCWVRx1Fr28baCJOUGgFPNr3ips78m9+ Iw8PdQ101jU0dvucDFxw/1SCGYEZzV+O/237oRPuLCiDX5nhQoxf6dn9ukQleLBMNy2BLI4H g342NhF21HLA+KlyLOHaMKQCKzlal+zVNZTRTCh/ikMhsxWQjBfnqTDbMj85DnWwtump27SI qhPjUnS0a6MKoS/A+hbi64k5zztkvloELfCSrX7NyBTT0jgF2IGFIxZMrKCtQ9StcGMCV9MX tjcBy6fj7QMontEaIDRJEMjg8UIGw1B687OhalOv1ISia4xOWvpYAM6ipgqh6tBQmFzasL9P h1RtcVdFpFbhwVlr1Bly8c25gBNQHL5GUjLMn45LlQz50OzrkwARAQABtCNLYW1pbCBSeXRh cm93c2tpIDxrYW1pbEBOZXRCU0Qub3JnPokCOQQTAQgAIwUCVbKF6wIbIwcLCQgHAwIBBhUI AgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEEuzCOmwLnZsrgwQAMdXTXDWkxtUciFgBnioE6hvZYOBV7Xa Gh3dwgVvS5rLwwq5ob1R9qdtCGMYxdaCAQCzo2hhUfe9ts11/Q4Pg0aDAb5CfdVVTmyvLMu+ gtK99t/sG4SfCdn8Bb8rCfRRDpkTq1cAGy6pp7rxyMrFBITTbdBWVcWdEdlMhEZtV8Z1BNDI kwEwZkYnM1UxOGW4rJNjNU+hBjNAscCTwBSbpG6NV1oBbgmgJ1PfaPCeAmGTLZyI57VLuFJy kR0Jlj8Ui7dAaJgO1WYdmvL+48s0N2QGEoHnrf50xoO34LlrIBUsCLmhtjWhZiuj0meCxNTr 5YpdBP13b2i64OCruH8/M4IO85GAIWxIMMv510rge9qSe38NHCzSmn9zcjFwVXIh9flZi7PK eqOP3yah6r1ZIBY68If/2FtvwDptUi1NHoSpN+dt0kRg26hDqMFOg+Jc6o7Wtm+3vFNDhU4I 8HkjDr62VlbHBxe6gDgVELcecWgXOydKgdrQhOPwCBJkPJigifsIz4EZQnyI3CchFja3qR9J Vo4iXwqAi6xN4RD0PS775JYDh56qUaaUsEctQ/D6Xm7Bbdv1VPlsYs/9uXxc/jWVhkd1sDn2 KZ3kv7uo04DoejVGWK9B4XEZ1ufRPzmlV0SYohX34ouLBq5Q6wbyw6+hUM+yM9RcvgkOCVgB laejuQINBFVwUF8BEAC61vNvzAAcYvkU89YoStDcGyun1ENNWpHOnuQEw613/Xgys6xZbKKa Xhee8Fiwm6FlaiYWh66Vw5cA+hMna9PDp6tZi106JnKZ9DcYxanHOCQ5V42OwUX0BDfwUIwq YgOz12Cf4pdIheVkDfiSEot3XrdI3lT8od9iWeehx5zfW77utVrWGUXkMFJKmiKzxyzjV+gF gLk2wH+L7KoYiV/MfLukLa7mTJAK4mi0sfjLStPlf5gELvPtyooKG0gs0MbDSG2qmzb1/A4Y ET8Vaa7wJulIePym+Du5TJBwptls0KEF9a04kp2Oc2zlUd/Z5z3lLBiZaXpfProbz3Ydjg4O 2+XTn+SHSq10l3agjiAkGwHH83Xnzn/clg3iTvwYgdOcwvfEnJ1FGz3DAzcBd/+IMaszJjuo dBVckt07mc97sseDjy+vIIyQGdMzDmI0U9UK7nDUFpnIfG5LYe+myBS1CgFrZAQ/WNg0j7aq CiIgbhVAOFi2sPRYlph2L8LZRUPFHLTt23vdJXdFDuKM6JSvPiDf914UpjXr/WSwT43lJzlO O3zgKGM7eclFsetDF3p0I4SVHvR7dHbIC5IHibssmk7bQgH0K1aGUX/QC18v3VY7wYYaotYH RnTiGbBGz+XxPhZYiXKQuyFu6dY3qOw/VjbsV6KVNn49z2Zg4RQV8QARAQABiQIfBBgBCAAJ BQJVcFBfAhsMAAoJEEuzCOmwLnZs9rIP/2MTyZ0252u51LFsMHa9/ylTyvl+UKq8iR852lkZ X9bH9nH4cUcen5vZo0EZI3IVOemHUq71u+DTq8PSj5vtJ0DW+sGBEbjW3Q4IjJ+96PPrlemK fYS0KWVwEzzNQLEejjduU43x83DvQ/URzSWgGnhMBqXUyJdsHyTFFNFwQ9U71gX00+wXHJyh aXRlK+7gRKtCWuNFtW/5bQXL9epxDAS0POIVAdBc1FtPLwg08Pj0KwHsGQpEr5/W8ybDtLF+ zISHIKCj1lZ8dv/7D1PmH5SEXzsv+bbzvPtb6zhoIA8HONshaG2eAYknAiCJZ0gj0npgktwc u9VkvDvHMD9+VyNzRV/M6Ak4nDeEG6QecTPv8IqCcAHDI27nY/49BvFVOJOMwqbTp5Xvfa71 ksP1mARrN+bIYMfOy7OhfCxGeZydvBhgCLKdL698aXmgy0xrmrOw+GXO69GVcebOvxWMXxz1 FOG/JnLIe1ZgCo2YF5wy8zTCGKCMx6gAwnku2nJmDGNsePVedV00FmB8mQ7Oxz+3B9+LtFim FHHR33PlRnViXlG+XTm9NontiGE0LvG4TzIY5CYNSw8PBao795dQMSsmMI4FHlvTIgupE9g1 PQWP+2H2C0RtnLUanRNUGRkze1+MNG7jc+fqJIo5s7+PSs26rUvA38QzEOJ95k7hdJty Subject: Re: Regressions getting more common Message-ID: <7d0e0826-250f-d152-f82c-50a11c8bee4f@netbsd.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:14:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; NetBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8sZli5seRVnieTbghjVv1guOgjt9zk8j7" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:17:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8sZli5seRVnieTbghjVv1guOgjt9zk8j7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1WYHDJmgcRkJAtiCqESAB9SyxzAenrIsG"; protected-headers="v1" From: Kamil Rytarowski To: Luis Machado , "gdb@sourceware.org" , kamil@moritz.systems Message-ID: <7d0e0826-250f-d152-f82c-50a11c8bee4f@netbsd.org> Subject: Re: Regressions getting more common References: In-Reply-To: --1WYHDJmgcRkJAtiCqESAB9SyxzAenrIsG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis, I talked to Sergio and his ex-boss from Red Hat as I proposed to maintain the CI infrastructure on behalf of my new company - Moritz Systems (www.moritz.systems). Unfortunately RH currently cannot rearrange the budgets, but how about Linaro? We could spare a dedicated developer full-time or part-time to monitor the reports and maintain the infrastructure. We are experienced in maintaining CI infrastructure for years in the BSD distribution development is a heavy CI workflow (multiple CPUs, multiple tests, emulators, real machines etc). Can we discuss it further? Best regards, Kamil Rytarowski CTO, Moritz Systems www.moritz.systems On 13.10.2020 19:05, Luis Machado via Gdb wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I don't know about other non-x86 architectures, but over the past year > I've been noticing more and more regressions being introduced, > unnoticed, for ARM/AArch64. This is not good and causes a lot of pain i= f > you have to keep tracking things manually, like we do now. >=20 > The buildbots worked great for this very purpose, but Sergio has moved > on to other duties (thanks for all the work!) and can't maintain it > anymore. The builders are still there though, sitting mostly idle. > We have a beefy ARM/AArch64 builder, which I can maintain for others to= > use. >=20 > We can do better than to declare things OK after a single round of test= s > under x86, which has been the trend unfortunately. >=20 > The subject of better CI has come up multiple times on IRC, with sad > memories of the gerrit experiment's demise. Now we're left with review > by e-mail and no broad testing. >=20 > I think we need to discuss better validation pre-commit and possible CI= > solutions for GDB. It is pretty easy to exercise x86, but it doesn't > sound fair to other architectures to have to keep cleaning up after > things that have only been validated on that architecture. >=20 > It would be great to establish a roadmap so we can get GDB's testing to= > today's standards, and maybe revisit the use of more modern patch revie= w > tools while at it. >=20 > What do you think? --1WYHDJmgcRkJAtiCqESAB9SyxzAenrIsG-- --8sZli5seRVnieTbghjVv1guOgjt9zk8j7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEELaxVpweEzw+lMDwuS7MI6bAudmwFAl+HFdIACgkQS7MI6bAu dmxB4g/+PQLktxfyCezddGP+mx5eYSjQMCaO22VXm5ZsBZER6BgRJ6zEY0iv1f/Y AecPaZubebN8ei2ahHWteuUff4yf2NCdE1G+HK1zFOxP/4rv6jYxRwd/D4HBeCJv i7wodFAkHsZ3eemPYyaX24PbdmIwQ5obri0C/+7wbtgl3BVam0wIe/UCb+PZSA8l bTfIR8djkVJqVNIkd2ksqs/fjukZZNjJcqRvG8z6ud2GVgjupkRnJQqwTfh6FXlF 5FSbD4NiLA4+fOs+gavPJOtAfRtfYuy9+ABc9wgRv/nDtO1ylGs+oaGRPQSC/RLq xvA0PvowbFuowT18Nf9WOMeGhruOInozGANvOJ1jSkep2z7d/2Q/z3jk+aTH6R85 bDEd18K+M5y3FkU3wPF++MVXajhu1+CYTwtPFgrn84khjzjMd6ClSG5WPCrR5fVb EJGdjLSSPbYQ6qPJ3l+I6jIA8CWd8264j5tUavjydXlZLF9Nx5yy9axsimsdPsh/ iHikwzIjdsz9YYH5SN0iY0GifhM07ibjlszC3Ewd2Sybb3LB57gws01wqrL035b6 9FLM071NZ7BHojrmN0u9cUrSku7LpqnP5gPY2NZ1Fs59D1QB2ezS2onk+PgyJ+WK GlXfU5XZbG8HF3ubQDcO3zW0JRUhsAzaQwXWTg0LFzd0gQMelkM= =nZvN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8sZli5seRVnieTbghjVv1guOgjt9zk8j7--