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[92.236.12.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u20sm1648635wmm.15.2020.07.08.15.03.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gdb/ down To: Joel Brobecker , Pedro Alves Cc: Andreas Schwab , gdb@sourceware.org References: <3a66feb1-686f-d0c0-7124-ca3887b52507@jguk.org> <954fafa3-158a-6e5c-0724-984d42785760@jguk.org> <83eer4sgi1.fsf@gnu.org> <838shalzbs.fsf@gnu.org> <20200628012729.GC15085@adacore.com> <87h7uv7olu.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <20200628153654.GA24418@adacore.com> <20200629174817.GB28752@adacore.com> From: Jonny Grant Message-ID: <7f387f60-12e1-879f-f395-9cb9a4894f25@jguk.org> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:03:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200629174817.GB28752@adacore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, KAM_MXURI, KAM_SHORT, LIKELY_SPAM_BODY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, TXREP, T_SPF_PERMERROR autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:03:34 -0000 On 29/06/2020 18:48, Joel Brobecker wrote: >> Wasn't bug-gdb@gnu.org converted to a gdb@sourceware.org alias years ago? >> >> https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/gdb/2014-11/msg00023.html >> >> Here, >> >> https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/gdb/2014-12/msg00001.html >> >> Sergio said: >> >> "The GNU sysadmins told me that both lists now redirect here. I hope it works OK." >> >> >> I'm surprised the archives even exist beyond 2014. >> >> For example, here: >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gdb/2016-01/threads.html >> >> we see an email: >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gdb/2016-01/msg00000.html >> >> that I can't find on the gdb@sourceware.org archive: >> >> https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/gdb/2016-01/ >> >> Did the redirect stop working or something? > > I just did an experiment, and sent an email to bug-gdb, and got > an email back from gdb-owner that it is being held in quarantine > waiting for and admin to approve it. So I think the redirection > is working, but now the mailing-list settings don't let those through > without moderator approval. > > I was wondering how active the newsgroup might be. One can take > a look there: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gnu.gdb.bug > > To sumarize: > - One post in 2019, with a question and no replies; > - Nothing in 2018; > - A stream of spam in 2017; > - Two posts in 2016, with no answers; > - Nothing in 2015; > - More activity in 2014. > > I'm wondering if we shouldn't just ask gnu.org to shut gnu.gdb.bug down. > Then we can adapt the mailinglist page on the GDB website accordingly, > with a link to the old archives for reference (as long as they are live). Sounds reasonable. I would suggest to update the bug-gdb link to the correct server at least for the moment. https://sourceware.org/gdb/mailing-lists/ What do you think? I don't know who has access to the web page. I can submit a patch if that would be supported. Probably better to just link to the archive, and clarify it is an old archive "archive of old bug-gdb mailing list" Note, this link is the archive, not the listinfo (so as not to encourage anyone to post to it, or try and join) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gdb Cheers, Jonny