From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22720 invoked by alias); 3 Oct 2012 18:40:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 22712 invoked by uid 22791); 3 Oct 2012 18:40:23 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il (HELO mtaout20.012.net.il) (80.179.55.166) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:40:16 +0000 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MBB00C00YIFP000@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for gdb@sourceware.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:40:12 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MBB00C6FYJ0C680@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:40:12 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:40:00 -0000 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Using Py_SetPythonHome In-reply-to: <20121003175343.GA14317@host2.jankratochvil.net> To: Jan Kratochvil Cc: brobecker@adacore.com, dje@google.com, meadori@codesourcery.com, gdb@sourceware.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83txub8kmf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20120917174611.GA27891@host2.jankratochvil.net> <20120919080410.GA12296@host2.jankratochvil.net> <20120921153645.GD5439@adacore.com> <20120921154345.GA30615@host2.jankratochvil.net> <20120921155758.GE5439@adacore.com> <20120921172735.GA4341@host2.jankratochvil.net> <20121002130854.GL30746@adacore.com> <20121003151244.GA22734@host2.jankratochvil.net> <20121003153854.GC13994@adacore.com> <20121003175343.GA14317@host2.jankratochvil.net> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2012-10/txt/msg00027.txt.bz2 > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 19:53:43 +0200 > From: Jan Kratochvil > Cc: Doug Evans , Meador Inge , gdb@sourceware.org > > please take this mail "with a grain of salt", although only a bit. You too ;-) > > that we should cater to the needs of people who do not provide > > a distribution, but just a binary package. > > There are not any such people. You are talking to them. > > I still build a lot of software from sources, > > Binaries outside of package management no longer exists and they should be > deleted ASAP if found as it is both a security hole and a too expensive > software management issue. On the contrary. I trust binaries I produced myself much more than some package downloaded from somewhere. > > Yes, it would be great if glibc dealt with it automatically for us. > > But what about Solaris, HP-UX, IRIX, Windows? Right now, there is > > no standard cross-platform way to deal with the problem. So each > > project is on its own. Not ideal, but still a fact that we have to > > deal with. > > Please withstand those few remaining years on those proprietary systems and do > not try to reinvent GNU/Linux package management on top of them, that has been > tried already uncountable times and it does not work. These proprietary > systems are doomed, their missing package management is a part of this fate. I'm afraid that's a pipe dream. I really suggest that we do not base our design decisions on such extreme assumptions.