Tom> To figure this out, we'd probably need a test case. Maybe comparing the Tom> results between the two scenarios with "set debug symtab-create on" Tom> would indicate something. I have a reproducer, but it is somewhat tricky to build. It is also not my program, so I'm not sure if I can simplify it. The program is KiCad (https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad.git). Build dependencies for Ubuntu can be obtained from the packaging files: https://dev-docs.kicad.org/en/build/linux/#_dependencies. Once KiCad is built I run the following commands in gdb: (gdb) file /home/nd/w/CLionProjects/kicad/build/debug/pcbnew/pcbnew (gdb) b /home/nd/w/CLionProjects/kicad/pcbnew/footprint_edit_frame.cpp:114 (gdb) run When KiCad's window is opened I invoke the menu item "Tools > Footprint Editor" to hit the created breakpoint, and then run: (gdb) interpreter-exec mi2 "-var-create var1_this * \"this\"" (gdb) interpreter-exec mi2 "-var-list-children --all-values \"var1_this\" -1 -1" (gdb) interpreter-exec mi2 "-var-list-children --all-values \"var1_this.private\" 0 8" The last command takes most of the time. The .gdbinit only sets up logging: set trace-commands on set logging overwrite on set logging debugredirect on set logging enabled on set debug symtab-create 1 I've captured the logs, they are quite big, the zip (15Mb) is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cz-HOOqus6xwf_eIjBqcs727w8aOqco4/view?usp=sharing . There are 3 files in archive: - gdb.txt.index-cache-disabled - the slow run with index-cache disabled - gdb.txt.index-cache-enabled-run1 - the first run with index-cache enabled - it is still slow - gdb.txt.index-cache-enabled-run2 - the second run with index-cache enabled - fast