From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 574E33856DEA; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 17:01:38 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 574E33856DEA Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id y80so6085054iof.3; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CR7vRshecy0F2+zBInn45HZA5qusXo8683Tn9yppBAM=; b=hybCb91aD4INqU9lWfom9u10ZzYtwCe0odeI+3k75VNSdFgTQJ29vZ0x41eSjozv4f +wHi0KuZ8SMl5mY5Q9RP3GJ5qNNecsyrJLT1sTEtNYF+OxsWAizQ+21W6BhaE5QJLAfP NdScA3sxwo7hOga1akSfLG/fmMpxjDYnt8YErEHqSW42HPYywoVpOyBa6mTjeJfytkGk SKoNtX+VcVVq2V1hgRCQ+X6H5e+qik9TU2IUvfY+w/7mOxY9J19nER4LNdY8OU3NRpIW gYuAPiVzHjilUSD9+zS6vFZljX4HV3uz6cIduj+Tj/JiW5MwXOeBZlPu8ME1GaEuxo6R /fCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CR7vRshecy0F2+zBInn45HZA5qusXo8683Tn9yppBAM=; b=MHiTCxfq9tER8LZHrtE8dAysVbM3TgPqYztID93nUt8ADeFc43pO0DhwKIZnaddt6x +js+YBCTA9nQ1S5kJPeI86u4aTKDxtzYH7S0EwZe1CblJn1PlpZroGmVI/HlAMApEszB W+ftQgwQm02DPb1Z39pT7dmyb7g+X5mTswCOHKPtXG8tl5UHUuXXT03Uv1JuPGSN7Rf2 levXKkbWQFcPyioRhon8Boy/OmVhPSAVoHmJy8L8nb5kPJkpcVZgKmRQRra68/PpMHzD JJpd5x/6eHR1lUcGewgJeCS1UNDD+Fit4M3EcZwFWdAlhQIlmFSeHUttbxK9dG9IPeOE ewPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1XmRvd3j7TVRj/ZlpzSFyq5sywWdPdT5xwuJfar76vzCDK5jWO P11MAES/3F+J5mhi4JMa1B0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4YpJTHXFZIwbETcFENvJ5Amee85QAd0MTRm96cuipp1bCO2xUn+5qifavqxpsvy1wRjsMvKw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:398c:b0:6bd:49ce:e4ad with SMTP id bw12-20020a056602398c00b006bd49cee4admr3218837iob.105.1666544497418; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.31.1.18] (65-130-77-9.slkc.qwest.net. [65.130.77.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g1-20020a056e021a2100b002fc165318basm2800522ile.30.2022.10.23.10.01.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:01:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.3.1 Subject: Re: Toolchain Infrastructure project statement of support Content-Language: en-US To: Siddhesh Poyarekar , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Overseers mailing list Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, Mark Wielaard , binutils@sourceware.org, Ian Kelling References: <2513b668-9ebd-9e78-7263-dc24f4a9558a@redhat.com> <20221013182529.sm76fysq37sv754x@cgf.cx> <9c0a9111-07b1-3617-c5c8-4b12e616f985@gotplt.org> <7abeb179-2c05-eee9-bd68-3b5f8a11bd32@gotplt.org> <87zgdmyg30.fsf@fsf.org> <230909ee-fb2c-cca0-abbe-fd7d6434efab@gotplt.org> <20221023151640.GA8034@redhat.com> <0bac951e-8f5e-deb6-c126-26d5fbd0bbfe@gotplt.org> From: Jeff Law In-Reply-To: <0bac951e-8f5e-deb6-c126-26d5fbd0bbfe@gotplt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 10/23/22 10:07, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >> If you're trying to suggest that overseers, contrary to our repeated >> public statements, wish to block all migration, that is untrue and you >> will need to retract this. > > Here's a more precise statement: Two of the overseers are leaders of > projects hosted on sourceware and three overseers (including those > two) have stated clearly on multiple occasions that transitioning to > LF IT is off the table, effectively announcing their decision on > behalf of projects they lead.  It is hence clear that the overseers > have effectively blocked full migration of sourceware to LF IT. They can make those decisions for the projects they lead.  But making the decision or setting criteria for other projects is highly unreasonable. Jeff