From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from relay.fit.cvut.cz (relay.fit.cvut.cz [IPv6:2001:718:2:2901::237]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EF443851C04 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 07:41:26 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 4EF443851C04 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=fit.cvut.cz Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=jan.vrany@fit.cvut.cz Received: from imap.fit.cvut.cz (imap.fit.cvut.cz [IPv6:2001:718:2:2901:0:0:0:238]) by relay.fit.cvut.cz (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 04V7fLRt052711 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 09:41:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jan.vrany@fit.cvut.cz) Received: from [IPv6:2a02:c7d:d65a:4200:6267:20ff:fee4:3e2c] ([IPv6:2a02:c7d:d65a:4200:6267:20ff:fee4:3e2c]) (authenticated bits=0 as user vranyj1) by imap.fit.cvut.cz (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 04V7fKb2032515 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 09:41:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jan.vrany@fit.cvut.cz) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Auto update ChangeLog for binutils+gdb commits? From: Jan Vrany To: gdb@sourceware.org Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 08:41:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y2p9qkgd.fsf@tromey.com> References: <891ef86a-a47f-18f2-c6bd-e525719e3768@simark.ca> <9492d857-c259-1429-f1c7-31a6dbf6510f@simark.ca> <1fb47dab-7a52-524b-17a3-672122277a48@suse.cz> <87tuzzaqey.fsf@tromey.com> <87o8q6c3m9.fsf@tromey.com> <12ea10a1-59c1-5858-4619-ed3b40121d30@suse.cz> <87y2p9qkgd.fsf@tromey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.2-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 07:41:28 -0000 On Sat, 2020-05-30 at 13:41 -0600, Tom Tromey wrote: > > > > IMO we should optimize for reducing the overhead for regular > contributors. Newcomers normally have many things to learn. Being a newcomer, here's my perspective: I must admit that dealing with changelogs (editing them, fixing them, making sure both changelog in file and in commit message are in sync) is a significant portion of the time. Fixing / improving the code is usually ~20% of the total time in my case (another time-consumer are tests, that's different story). Indeed, I might be exception. That being said, this is the highest "overhead" of all projects I work on - not many, though. My 2c. Jan