From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jim Blandy <jimb@red-bean.com>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Maintainer policy for GDB
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:35:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uacfxy6h0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f2776cb0511202352n18d13a4ajf72798b500660c0c@mail.gmail.com> (message from Jim Blandy on Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:52:11 -0800)
> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:52:11 -0800
> From: Jim Blandy <jimb@red-bean.com>
> Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
>
> On 11/19/05, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > > From: Jim Blandy <jimb@red-bean.com>
> > > But I don't think it's a good idea to grant exclusive authority as a
> > > reward for accepting responsibility. I think contributors should earn
> > > authority informally, through their contributions and their
> > > participation in discussions. If you work steadily, explain yourself
> > > well, and are easy to work with, then your words will carry weight
> > > that no set of rules could give them. That is the sort of "position"
> > > that we should offer our contributors to aspire to.
> >
> > Then why not give them the responsibility at the same time as we grant
> > the authority, and through the same informal process? Under the
> > proposed rules, nothing is lost by not having responsible maintainers,
> > anyway.
>
> I don't understand this. Could you spell it out for me, as you would
> for a young child?
Sorry for my continuing inability to explain myself. Let me try
again.
You agreed that it was unfair to give someone a responsibility without
giving them the ``power to carry it out'' (which I interpret as
authority).
Then you said (above) that authority shouldn't be given merely as a
reward for accepting responsibility, but rather earned through gradual
informal process.
To that I say, let's wait until this informal process earns the
contributor the authority, and nominate her to be a responsible
maintainer only when that happens. This could delay the nomination
considerably, or even leave us with a very small number of responsible
maintainers, but the proposed scheme works the same even in that case,
since patch commits don't require an approval from a responsible
maintainer, others have that power.
Does this make sense now?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-21 22:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-17 4:48 Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-17 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 21:10 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:33 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:46 ` Wu Zhou
2005-11-18 11:09 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 11:59 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 18:44 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-18 18:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 22:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-19 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:51 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 22:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 0:34 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-19 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-21 7:52 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-21 22:35 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-11-18 22:46 ` David Carlton
2005-11-19 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 1:28 ` David Carlton
2005-11-23 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 4:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 20:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 21:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 8:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-25 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 17:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 19:53 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 21:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 21:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 23:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 23:42 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-26 0:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-26 9:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 15:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-28 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 9:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 16:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 7:28 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-26 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 16:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 20:41 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-24 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 2:05 ` David Carlton
2005-11-24 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <8f2776cb0511162240q6f550008udda9803b5253fd88@mail.gmail.com>
2005-11-17 6:44 ` Fwd: " Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 14:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-17 17:07 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:38 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 17:53 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-18 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 19:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:02 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-19 2:44 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 17:05 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:21 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:23 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:25 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 5:28 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-20 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 21:55 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-20 22:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 19:50 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:52 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-18 21:51 ` David Carlton
2005-11-27 4:50 Michael Snyder
2005-11-27 4:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 5:00 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-27 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 19:18 ` Christopher Faylor
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