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* [Bug localedata/187] New: wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
@ 2004-05-29 15:12 deniz at arayan dot com
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From: deniz at arayan dot com @ 2004-05-29 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
Turkish uses a comma (,) for the decimal point and has a grouping of 3, which
uses a dot (.) as the separator.
I noticed that the LC_NUMERIC section in tr_TR does not reflect this.
Please find the attached small patch which should correct it.
Many thanks and best regards,
Deniz
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Summary: wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
Product: glibc
Version: unspecified
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: localedata
AssignedTo: pere at hungry dot com
ReportedBy: deniz at arayan dot com
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From deniz at arayan dot com 2004-05-29 15:13 -------
Created an attachment (id=95)
--> (http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=95&action=view)
defines grouping as 3, grouping separator as a dot, and decimal point as a
comma
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From pere at hungry dot com 2004-07-17 08:46 -------
I've asked the original locale author Keld Simonsen to comment
on this change request. I aldo tried to reach an earlier
contributor, "Nilg~n Belma Bug~ner", but his email address bounced.
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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Original poster: Provide references (in official web sites or newspapers) which
shows the behavior you want.
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From deniz at arayan dot com 2004-08-10 06:08 -------
(In reply to comment #2)
> I've asked the original locale author Keld Simonsen to comment
> on this change request. I aldo tried to reach an earlier
> contributor, "Nilg~n Belma Bug~ner", but his email address bounced.
>
Nilgun's email address is nilgun-at-belgeler-dot-org .
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From deniz at arayan dot com 2004-08-10 06:23 -------
(In reply to comment #3)
> Original poster: Provide references (in official web sites or newspapers) which
> shows the behavior you want.
http://www.tuerkisch-lernen-online.de/forum/messages/3958.htm
This provides the relevant excerpt from the official "Imla Kilavuzu" (Spelling
Manual) of the Turk Dil Kurumu (Turkish Language Institute). Unfortunately, the
excerpt is in Turkish, but looking under nokta (.), you can see item 10, which
lists 8.375.562 27.870.197 as usage examples and looking under virgul (,), you
can see item 5, which lists 45,9 999,9 13,5 587,3 as usage examples.
The Turk Dil Kurumu web site is at http://www.tdk.gov.tr Unfortunately, the web
site is in Turkish and they no longer have the Imla Kilavuzu on-line, which used
to be at http://www.tdk.gov.tr/imla/
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From pere at hungry dot com 2004-08-10 07:11 -------
If you want to check out this document now removed from the web,
have a look at the way back machine,
<URL: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tdk.gov.tr/imla/ >.
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From deniz at arayan dot com 2004-08-10 07:25 -------
(In reply to comment #6)
> If you want to check out this document now removed from the web,
> have a look at the way back machine,
> <URL: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tdk.gov.tr/imla/ >.
>
Great! Please look at
http://web.archive.org/web/20030620080225/www.tdk.gov.tr/imla/kur09_01.htm for
usage of nokta (.), item 9 for use of the "dot" as thousands separator.
Also, please look at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020617190130/www.tdk.gov.tr/imla/kur09_02.htm
for usage of virgul (,), item 14 for use of the "comma" as the decimal separator.
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From nilgun at belgeler dot org 2004-08-14 07:44 -------
(In reply to comment #2)
> I've asked the original locale author Keld Simonsen to comment
> on this change request. I aldo tried to reach an earlier
> contributor, "Nilg~n Belma Bug~ner", but his email address bounced.
>
The grammar rules published by the Turkish Language Institution (TDK)
make no distinciton between monetary and numerical representations.
However the monetary representation has gained public recognition
because of the stress placed on this matter by the Turkish
Ministry of Finance. Nevertheless this representation is not as
well defined as in the documentation of th GNU C libraries
(probably because the related rule set was prepared during the pre-IT era).
On the other hand, due to the international nature of the scientific
publications, the numerical representation has not been as widely
accepted as the monetary representation. The fix I have sent you uses
the publically accepted form of the rules that were left unspecified
by the Turkish Language Institution.
It is possible not to make any grouping using the strfmon function.
Therefore the same tersary grouping can be used in the numerical
representation as in the monetary representation. The substitution of
period with comma is possible by assigning "C" to the LC_NUMERIC variable.
Consequently the current number representations adopted by the Turkish
Language Institution can be used both in the numerical and in the monetary
representations, provided that their grammar rules stay the same
(if not changed in the grammar rules currently being revised).
In order to end the current debate, the patch sent in can be assumed
valid a priori.
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------- Additional Comments From pere at hungry dot com 2004-10-31 13:22 -------
*** Bug 422 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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* [Bug localedata/187] wrong grouping and decimal point in tr_TR LC_NUMERIC
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------- Additional Comments From pere at hungry dot com 2004-10-31 14:06 -------
I've just sent a patch fixing this and bug #421 to the
libc-hacker mailing list. Now we wait for the glibc
maintainers to accept or reject that patch.
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------- Additional Comments From cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu dot org 2004-10-31 20:48 -------
Subject: Bug 187
CVSROOT: /cvs/glibc
Module name: libc
Changes by: roland@sources.redhat.com 2004-10-31 20:48:25
Modified files:
localedata/locales: tr_TR
Log message:
2004-10-31 Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com>
[BZ #337]
* locales/af_ZA: Change contact address from bug-glibc@gnu.org
to libc-locales@sources.redhat.com.
* locales/an_ES: Likewise.
* locales/ar_AE: Likewise.
* locales/ar_BH: Likewise.
* locales/ar_DZ: Likewise.
* locales/ar_EG: Likewise.
* locales/ar_IN: Likewise.
* locales/ar_IQ: Likewise.
* locales/ar_JO: Likewise.
* locales/ar_KW: Likewise.
* locales/ar_LB: Likewise.
* locales/ar_LY: Likewise.
* locales/ar_MA: Likewise.
* locales/ar_OM: Likewise.
* locales/ar_QA: Likewise.
* locales/ar_SA: Likewise.
* locales/ar_SD: Likewise.
* locales/ar_SY: Likewise.
* locales/ar_TN: Likewise.
* locales/ar_YE: Likewise.
* locales/be_BY: Likewise.
* locales/bn_IN: Likewise.
* locales/br_FR@euro: Likewise.
* locales/ca_ES: Likewise.
* locales/ca_ES@euro: Likewise.
* locales/cs_CZ: Likewise.
* locales/da_DK: Likewise.
* locales/de_AT: Likewise.
* locales/de_AT@euro: Likewise.
* locales/de_BE: Likewise.
* locales/de_BE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/de_CH: Likewise.
* locales/de_DE: Likewise.
* locales/de_DE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/de_LU: Likewise.
* locales/de_LU@euro: Likewise.
* locales/el_GR: Likewise.
* locales/el_GR@euro: Likewise.
* locales/en_AU: Likewise.
* locales/en_BW: Likewise.
* locales/en_CA: Likewise.
* locales/en_DK: Likewise.
* locales/en_GB: Likewise.
* locales/en_HK: Likewise.
* locales/en_IE: Likewise.
* locales/en_IE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/en_IN: Likewise.
* locales/en_NZ: Likewise.
* locales/en_PH: Likewise.
* locales/en_SG: Likewise.
* locales/en_US: Likewise.
* locales/en_ZW: Likewise.
* locales/es_AR: Likewise.
* locales/es_BO: Likewise.
* locales/es_CL: Likewise.
* locales/es_CO: Likewise.
* locales/es_CR: Likewise.
* locales/es_DO: Likewise.
* locales/es_EC: Likewise.
* locales/es_ES: Likewise.
* locales/es_ES@euro: Likewise.
* locales/es_GT: Likewise.
* locales/es_HN: Likewise.
* locales/es_MX: Likewise.
* locales/es_NI: Likewise.
* locales/es_PA: Likewise.
* locales/es_PE: Likewise.
* locales/es_PR: Likewise.
* locales/es_PY: Likewise.
* locales/es_SV: Likewise.
* locales/es_US: Likewise.
* locales/es_UY: Likewise.
* locales/es_VE: Likewise.
* locales/et_EE: Likewise.
* locales/eu_ES: Likewise.
* locales/eu_ES@euro: Likewise.
* locales/fi_FI: Likewise.
* locales/fi_FI@euro: Likewise.
* locales/fo_FO: Likewise.
* locales/fr_BE: Likewise.
* locales/fr_BE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/fr_CA: Likewise.
* locales/fr_CH: Likewise.
* locales/fr_FR: Likewise.
* locales/fr_FR@euro: Likewise.
* locales/fr_LU: Likewise.
* locales/fr_LU@euro: Likewise.
* locales/ga_IE: Likewise.
* locales/ga_IE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/gl_ES: Likewise.
* locales/gl_ES@euro: Likewise.
* locales/gu_IN: Likewise.
* locales/gv_GB: Likewise.
* locales/he_IL: Likewise.
* locales/hi_IN: Likewise.
* locales/hr_HR: Likewise.
* locales/hu_HU: Likewise.
* locales/id_ID: Likewise.
* locales/is_IS: Likewise.
* locales/it_CH: Likewise.
* locales/it_IT: Likewise.
* locales/it_IT@euro: Likewise.
* locales/iw_IL: Likewise.
* locales/ja_JP: Likewise.
* locales/kk_KZ: Likewise.
* locales/kl_GL: Likewise.
* locales/kn_IN: Likewise.
* locales/ko_KR: Likewise.
* locales/kw_GB: Likewise.
* locales/lo_LA: Likewise.
* locales/lt_LT: Likewise.
* locales/lv_LV: Likewise.
* locales/ml_IN: Likewise.
* locales/mn_MN: Likewise.
* locales/mr_IN: Likewise.
* locales/ms_MY: Likewise.
* locales/mt_MT: Likewise.
* locales/nb_NO: Likewise.
* locales/nl_BE: Likewise.
* locales/nl_BE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/nl_NL: Likewise.
* locales/nl_NL@euro: Likewise.
* locales/nn_NO: Likewise.
* locales/pa_IN: Likewise.
* locales/pl_PL: Likewise.
* locales/pt_BR: Likewise.
* locales/pt_PT: Likewise.
* locales/pt_PT@euro: Likewise.
* locales/ro_RO: Likewise.
* locales/ru_RU: Likewise.
* locales/ru_UA: Likewise.
* locales/sk_SK: Likewise.
* locales/sl_SI: Likewise.
* locales/sq_AL: Likewise.
* locales/sv_FI: Likewise.
* locales/sv_FI@euro: Likewise.
* locales/sv_SE: Likewise.
* locales/ta_IN: Likewise.
* locales/te_IN: Likewise.
* locales/th_TH: Likewise.
* locales/tr_TR: Likewise.
* locales/uk_UA: Likewise.
* locales/ur_PK: Likewise.
* locales/vi_VN: Likewise.
* locales/wa_BE@euro: Likewise.
* locales/zh_CN: Likewise.
* locales/zh_HK: Likewise.
* locales/zh_SG: Likewise.
* locales/zh_TW: Likewise.
[BZ #187]
* locales/tr_TR: Add 'yY' and 'nN' to yesexpr and noexpr, to avoid
surprises when using untranslated program.
* locales/tr_TR: Remove trailing '.*' from yesexpr and noexpr to
make it more like the structure of the POSIX locale values.
* locales/tr_TR: Correct numeric decimal point to use comma, and
correct grouping.
Based on patches from Deniz Akkus Kanca and Nilgün Belma Bugüner.
[BZ #421]
* locales/tr_TR: Update with new currency symbol valid from
2005-01-01. Patch from Nilgün Belma Bugüner.
* locales/tr_TR: Convert UTF-8 comment to <U#> notation.
Patches:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/localedata/locales/tr_TR.diff?cvsroot=glibc&r1=1.18&r2=1.19
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This problem is fixed in glibc CVS. Resolving as fixed.
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