[Bug localedata/5910] AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[Bug localedata/5910] AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com]

------- Additional Comments From martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com  2008-03-11 14:14 -------
Created an attachment (id=2315)
 --> (http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=2315&action=view)
Ubuntu patch


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[Bug localedata/5910] New: AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com]

Similar to bug 5777 and bug 2692, some Ubuntu bug reporters asked for
alternative 12-hour format in Spain and Mexico (es_ES an es_MX):

  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51255
  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106381

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           Summary: AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX
           Product: glibc
           Version: unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
        AssignedTo: libc-locales at sources dot redhat dot com
        ReportedBy: martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com
                CC: glibc-bugs at sources dot redhat dot com


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[Bug localedata/5910] AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[drepper at redhat dot com]

------- Additional Comments From drepper at redhat dot com  2008-03-11 19:24 -------
And once again, you don't get it.  You must provide evidence.  In the case of
Spain I have even rejected the change since the format is not generally used.

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[Bug localedata/5910] AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com]

------- Additional Comments From martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com  2008-03-11 20:05 -------
No need to become rude that quickly. Those were my first three bugs reported
here, you asked me for getting evidence, and I got it the first time.

I asked the original reporters to provide some pointers here.

Thanks, Martin

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[Bug localedata/5910] AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com]

------- Additional Comments From martin dot pitt at ubuntu dot com  2008-03-26 16:26 -------
Some other reporters showed up and said that the 24 hour format is also very
common there, and that defining AM/PM stops them from using 24 hour format, so
let's forget about this for now.

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[Bug localedata/5910] AM/PM format for es_ES and es_MX

[luisasolarf at gmail dot com]

------- Additional Comments From luisasolarf at gmail dot com  2009-06-19 16:43 -------
i will copy a post i wrote here
"https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/51255" about the subject :

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Hello everybody,
I live in El Salvador, Central America, and I can confirm the most used time
format here is the a.m./p.m. hour. as in every country of central america and
mexico, since i lived there too.
Here are some links to salvadorian newspapers, web portals and goverment
institution, all using the a.m./p.m. format:

http://www.laprensagrafica.com/el-salvador/social/25282-830-p-m.html
http://www.clic.org.sv/agenda.php?funcion=detalle&evento=887
http://www.sc.gob.sv/Publicaciones/Licitaciones/licitaciones_08.htm

i hope this link can be evidence enough.

But i don't understand something: why is there so much problem with enabling at
least an option for the user to choose whether if they want to use the a.m./p.m.
format or not. I think any OS have this as an option, and it is weird -for not
saying ridiculous- we spanish speaking people having to convince and prove you
-ubuntu programmers i guess- what we are saying its true!!
I normally enable this option by editing the locale file. The first time i did
it was a headache, and shouldn't be this way. My dad's installed ubuntu and he
found too that the time format he is used to is not available not even as an option.

It is not linux, and consequently ubuntu, all about choice?
So i don't understand the reluctance to enable the a.m./p.m. format, at least as
option if not as default. It is not technically difficult do it -i could-, so i
feel it is all about willingness and openness.

 -practically there is zero bad consequence in user experience by enabling this
option even in countries that don't use it.
so please! come on guys, don't get that complicated in a decision that should be
that simple!

anybody latin people agrees with me?

best regards,

Alejandro,


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