* [Bug localedata/10871] Ru_RU month names are in incorrect form
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@ 2011-02-27 22:44 ` van.de.bugger at gmail dot com
2012-11-18 7:29 ` a.m.suharev at gmail dot com
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--- Comment #3 from van.de.bugger at gmail dot com 2011-02-27 22:43:44 UTC ---
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> You'll have to provide a complete patch.
I could provide a patch, but there is a problem in specification. Neither "man
5 locale" nor "man date" specify the case of name. It is not clear whether it
should be nominative, genitive or some another case.
For example, "date +'%d %B %Y'" produces "28 Февраль 2011" which looks
incorrect (the first letter should be small, not capital, the form should be ).
However, "date +'%B, %d-e'" produces "Февраль, 28-e" which looks correct. "date
+'%B'" produces just months name "Февраль". I cannot say whether it correct or
not without context.
The only clue could be `d_fmt' and `date_fmt' (but latter one is not described
in "man 5 locale") values in locale definition file. It looks like date string
produced with `date_fmt' should be correct, which means it Russian locale month
name (%B) should be in genitive case. But it may break some existing programs
which expect month name in nominative case...
The solution could be extending `mon' array. For example, it could contain 12,
24, or even more elements. Element #1 is name of January in nominative case,
element #13 is name of January in genitive case, #25 is the name of January in
some 3rd case, etc. `%B' is name of month in nominative case, `%1B' is the same
as `%B', `%2B' is the name of months in genitive case, `%3B' is the name of
months in the "3rd" case, etc.
Alternatively, it could be multidimensional array, so in construct `%nB' n
selects the proper dimension.
Any thoughts on that?
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* [Bug localedata/10871] Ru_RU month names are in incorrect form
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2011-02-27 22:44 ` van.de.bugger at gmail dot com
@ 2012-11-18 7:29 ` a.m.suharev at gmail dot com
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--- Comment #4 from a.m.suharev at gmail dot com 2012-11-18 07:28:57 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > You'll have to provide a complete patch.
>
> I could provide a patch, but there is a problem in specification. Neither "man
> 5 locale" nor "man date" specify the case of name. It is not clear whether it
> should be nominative, genitive or some another case.
If it is not specified, we should follow the language's rules. If it would be
specified it has to be specified in accordance with the language's rules. So
let me as a "native speaker" to suggest the solution.
Both months and weekdays should be in lower case. The correct form of date
should be "28 февраля" (the genitive). If you add a weekday it is "понедельник,
28 февраля" (nominative for the weekday, genitive for month). A year, if
necessary, should be after the day, optionally followed by the word "года" or
the abbreviation "г.", line this "понедельник, 28 февраля 2011 года".
> The solution could be extending `mon' array. For example, it could contain 12,
> 24, or even more elements. Element #1 is name of January in nominative case,
> element #13 is name of January in genitive case, #25 is the name of January in
> some 3rd case, etc. `%B' is name of month in nominative case, `%1B' is the same
> as `%B', `%2B' is the name of months in genitive case, `%3B' is the name of
> months in the "3rd" case, etc.
>
> Alternatively, it could be multidimensional array, so in construct `%nB' n
> selects the proper dimension.
>
> Any thoughts on that?
I think one should definitely extend the "mon" array. However the better idea
would be to put there not the cases (nominative, genitive etc) but the contexts
(month's name "as-is", month's name "when used in a date" etc). The array could
be extensible.
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