* [Bug libc/11869] LANGUAGE not taken into account unless LC_MESSAGES is set to non-POSIX
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@ 2011-05-20 13:18 ` drepper.fsp at gmail dot com
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From: drepper.fsp at gmail dot com @ 2011-05-20 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ulrich Drepper <drepper.fsp at gmail dot com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |WONTFIX
--- Comment #1 from Ulrich Drepper <drepper.fsp at gmail dot com> 2011-05-20 13:18:31 UTC ---
This won't change. People expect forever that by setting LC_ALL to C or POSIX
all internationalization is turned off. Changing this would break code
unnecessarily. Just add appropriate settings of LC_ALL or LANG.
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From: vincent+libc at vinc17 dot org @ 2011-05-20 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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--- Comment #2 from Vincent Lefèvre <vincent+libc at vinc17 dot org> 2011-05-20 16:48:56 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> This won't change. People expect forever that by setting LC_ALL to C or POSIX
> all internationalization is turned off. Changing this would break code
> unnecessarily.
But I do *not* have LC_ALL set to C or POSIX (the problem was with
LC_MESSAGES). So, this will not break such code.
Or perhaps it should be fixed in some other way. For instance, LC_MESSAGES
should have the precedence over LANGUAGE (always, not just with set to POSIX).
> Just add appropriate settings of LC_ALL or LANG.
Setting LC_ALL is unacceptable as it has the precedence over other LC_*
locales. And LANG is ignored.
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--- Comment #3 from Vincent Lefèvre <vincent+libc at vinc17 dot org> 2011-05-20 16:50:45 UTC ---
And of course, the manual should be fixed (if not already done), as the
description doesn't match the behavior.
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From: drepper.fsp at gmail dot com @ 2011-05-20 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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--- Comment #4 from Ulrich Drepper <drepper.fsp at gmail dot com> 2011-05-20 19:01:28 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> But I do *not* have LC_ALL set to C or POSIX (the problem was with
> LC_MESSAGES). So, this will not break such code.
Of course it will, since the result is the same. There is no point arguing,
this won't change.
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--- Comment #5 from Vincent Lefèvre <vincent+libc at vinc17 dot org> 2011-07-06 01:35:37 UTC ---
There's still something broken, but this may be how systems (such as Debian)
use LANGUAGE. For instance, the language changes after a ssh:
ypig% locale
LANG=POSIX
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO8859-1
LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
LC_TIME=en_DK
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY="POSIX"
LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR
LC_PAPER="POSIX"
LC_NAME="POSIX"
LC_ADDRESS="POSIX"
LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX"
LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX"
LC_ALL=
ypig% cp
cp: opérande fichier manquant
Saisissez « cp --help » pour plus d'informations.
ypig% ssh localhost locale
Connected to ypig (from ::1)
LANG=POSIX
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO8859-1
LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
LC_TIME=en_DK
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY="POSIX"
LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR
LC_PAPER="POSIX"
LC_NAME="POSIX"
LC_ADDRESS="POSIX"
LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX"
LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX"
LC_ALL=
ypig% ssh localhost cp
Connected to ypig (from ::1)
cp: missing file operand
Try `cp --help' for more information.
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