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* [Bug math/15359] New: Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
@ 2013-04-11 17:43 schwab@linux-m68k.org
  2013-04-12  2:25 ` [Bug math/15359] " carlos at redhat dot com
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             Bug #: 15359
           Summary: Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
           Product: glibc
           Version: 2.18
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: math
        AssignedTo: unassigned@sourceware.org
        ReportedBy: schwab@linux-m68k.org
    Classification: Unclassified
              Host: powerpc*-*-*


Failure: Test: cos (pi/2) == 1.082856673921913968223746169860580e-32
Result:
 is:          1.08285667392191396822e-32   0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc7p-107
 should be:   1.08285667392191396822e-32   0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc7p-107
 difference:  5.71253355584909492648e-62   0x1.78000000000000000000p-204
 ulp       :  376.0000
 max.ulp   :  0.0000
Maximal error of `cos'
 is      : 376 ulp
 accepted: 1 ulp
Failure: Test: sincos (pi/2, &sin_res, &cos_res) puts
1.082856673921913968223746169860580e-32 in cos_res
Result:
 is:          1.08285667392191396822e-32   0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc7p-107
 should be:   1.08285667392191396822e-32   0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc7p-107
 difference:  5.71253355584909492648e-62   0x1.78000000000000000000p-204
 ulp       :  376.0000
 max.ulp   :  0.0000
Maximal error of `sincos'
 is      : 376 ulp
 accepted: 1 ulp

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* [Bug math/15359] Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
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--- Comment #1 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-12 02:25:23 UTC ---
Fixing this.

If someone could run: printf ("%.100000g\n", (long double)(M_PIl/2.0L));, on a
system with ibm long double that would be great.

Then I will increase the number of digits in the answer to match the maximum
precision for the type e.g. ~106 digits.

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* [Bug math/15359] Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
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--- Comment #2 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-12 02:37:20 UTC ---
That should be:
printf ("%.100000Lg\n", (long double)(M_PIl/2.0L));

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* [Bug math/15359] Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
  2013-04-11 17:43 [Bug math/15359] New: Inaccurate cos for IBM long double schwab@linux-m68k.org
  2013-04-12  2:25 ` [Bug math/15359] " carlos at redhat dot com
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--- Comment #3 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-12 06:53:33 UTC ---
OK I have a PPC system to test this with setup now.

pi/2 rounded to an IBM long double is:
1.570796326794896619231321691639740613531845480547870673025773690344164545962257761857472360134124755859375L

An infinite precision cos(x) of this value yields:
cos(1.570796326794896619231321691639740613531845480547870673025773690344164545962257761857472360134124755859375)=
1.0828566739219139682237461698605809743657180846737456545052536933566509276210257011310354810728258977667687179060601794311587878461976409993637130916602872593217973444675992784631595571310528753415771366618685685565006009288560082552130...
× 10^-32

The highest precision answer in an IBM long double is:
1.082856673921913968223746169860583539424442830597581817048602989306514317306816102445404953931906744377790888342946371404131442949282377978537095231104103731922805309295654296875e-32

Notice that the infinite precision answer differs from rounded IBM long double
value around ~1e-64? That's no mistake, that's around 1ulp. So it should be
possible to attain this value.

However the ppc cos(x) implemetnation yields:
1.0828566739219139682237461698548710058685937356711019144992345158825349842613103435536910382894240130262349699496720470547777605274664125545314163900911808013916015625e-32

They differ at around the 29th digit, or a difference of
5.71253355584909492648e-62.

Comparing hex digits:
Is:        0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc7402000p-107
Should be: 0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc74020bcp-107

It shows the answer is not as precise as the IBM long double type would allow.
A rough guess is that we have 8-12 bits lost.

Therefore there is nothing wrong with the test, it is now correctly showing
that there are 376 ulps of error in the IBM long double implementation of
cos(x). Previously we compared to zero and used a huge value for ulp, ignoring
a lot of inaccuracy around zero.

Note: At the expected value for cos(~pi/2) the value of 1 ulp is 1.5193e-64

Do you see any flaws in that analysis?

The patch I'll probably apply is to convert all the results to hex literals
with the maximum precision for the type.

e.g.

diff --git a/math/libm-test.inc b/math/libm-test.inc
index 0049fcd..f0eb81a 100644
--- a/math/libm-test.inc
+++ b/math/libm-test.inc
@@ -5337,23 +5337,23 @@ cos_test (void)
      to each type.  */
 #ifdef TEST_FLOAT
   /* 32-bit float.  */
-  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, -4.371139000186241438857289400265215e-8L);
+  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, -0x1.777a5cp-25L);
 #endif
 #if defined TEST_DOUBLE || (defined TEST_LDOUBLE && LDBL_MANT_DIG == 53)
   /* 64-bit double or 64-bit long double.  */
-  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, 6.123233995736765886130329661375001e-17L);
+  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, 0x1.1a62633145c07p-54L);
 #endif
 #if defined TEST_LDOUBLE && LDBL_MANT_DIG == 64
   /* 96-bit long double.  */
-  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, -2.50827880633416601177866354016537e-20L);
+  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, -0xe.ce675d1fc8f8cbbp-69L);
 #endif
 #if defined TEST_LDOUBLE && LDBL_MANT_DIG == 106
   /* 128-bit IBM long double.  */
-  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, 1.082856673921913968223746169860580e-32L);
+  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, 0x1.c1cd129024e088a67cc74020bcp-107L);
 #endif
 #if defined TEST_LDOUBLE && LDBL_MANT_DIG == 113
   /* 128-bit long double.  */
-  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, 4.335905065061890512398522013021675e-35L);
+  TEST_f_f (cos, M_PI_2l, 0x1.cd129024e088a67cc74020bbea64p-115L);
 #endif

   TEST_f_f (cos, 0.75L, 0.731688868873820886311838753000084544L);
...

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* [Bug math/15359] Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
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--- Comment #4 from Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> 2013-04-12 09:15:17 UTC ---
> Therefore there is nothing wrong with the test, it is now correctly showing
> that there are 376 ulps of error in the IBM long double implementation of
> cos(x).

Guess that's the point of this report.

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--- Comment #5 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-12 13:52:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> > Therefore there is nothing wrong with the test, it is now correctly showing
> > that there are 376 ulps of error in the IBM long double implementation of
> > cos(x).
> 
> Guess that's the point of this report.

It is. My thought was that perhaps I'd lost some precision in the constants
used for the test, and it was the case (this is something I'd been talking
about with Rich and David). After fixing the constants there can be no doubt,
unless I made a mistake with my analysis, that cos for IBM long double is
indeed inaccurate.

Would you mind updating the ulps file and adding a comment to this test to
indicate this BZ#?

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--- Comment #6 from Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> 2013-04-25 08:36:10 UTC ---
I cannot update the ulps file because I don't know the correct ulp.

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--- Comment #7 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-25 16:10:28 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> I cannot update the ulps file because I don't know the correct ulp.

The correct ulp is that which is displayed as `ulp' in the testsuite failure
e.g. 376 for IBM long double.

Run `make regen-ulps' and look at the result, and update the ulps file
accordingly.

Did I misunderstand you?

Cheers,
Carlos.

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--- Comment #8 from Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> 2013-04-25 16:16:47 UTC ---
It doesn't make sense to use the ulp of a broken implementation.

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--- Comment #9 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-25 17:03:06 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> It doesn't make sense to use the ulp of a broken implementation.

The implementation isn't broken, it's just inaccurate.

What problems do we have leaving the test in place and using a large ulp value
for IBM long double?

I noticed that Joseph also said he would like to disable cpow once we switch to
accurate ulps since the error in cpow is going to be a huge number of ulps.

Is this just a policy issue? That we disable tests if the ulp values are too
high?

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--- Comment #10 from Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> 2013-04-25 17:14:03 UTC ---
It would be the first one with a huge ulp.  This bug is about keeping it that
way.

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--- Comment #11 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-04-25 20:02:12 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> It would be the first one with a huge ulp.  This bug is about keeping it that
> way.

Thanks, that makes sense.

In that case the intermediate fix is to disable the test for IBM long double
because cos is not sufficiently accurate?

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--- Comment #12 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> 2013-05-09 13:15:04 UTC ---
I'll be disabling this test until we fix this issue.

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Joseph Myers <jsm28 at gcc dot gnu.org> changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Joseph Myers <jsm28 at gcc dot gnu.org> 2013-05-09 21:32:07 UTC ---
Fixed for 2.18 by:

commit ed41ffefc3f947f14d565ea8d239ff2d31f6a7fe
Author: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Date:   Thu May 9 21:30:08 2013 +0000

    Fix ldbl-128ibm cos range reduction near pi/2 (bug 15359).

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* [Bug math/15359] Inaccurate cos for IBM long double
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