From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12926 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 2014 15:39:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact glibc-bugs-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: glibc-bugs-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 12820 invoked by uid 48); 20 Aug 2014 15:39:42 -0000 From: "arysin at gmail dot com" To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug localedata/17293] UKR-IE should follow CYR-IE in uk_UA locale Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:39:00 -0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: localedata X-Bugzilla-Version: 2.18 X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: arysin at gmail dot com X-Bugzilla-Status: NEW X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2014-08/txt/msg00086.txt.bz2 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17293 --- Comment #4 from Andriy Rysin --- As Yuri already pointed to the official spelling rules, the order of the letters is fixed by their position in the alphabet. The note below says that apostrophe is not a letter so is not taken to account when sorting. Also there's another problem in current locale data that soft sign is ignored in sorting when it's softening the consonant before it. It's not written anywhere in official rules and all official documents and dictionaries treat soft sign as a separate letter with fixed order. There's also another web-page (http://ukrainskamova.at.ua/publ/fonetika_i_pismo/suchasnij_ukrajinskij_alfavit/4-1-0-21) that states that apostrophe and hyphen are not taken to account when sorting which matches the order in modern documents and dictionaries. There's also a webpage that describes sorting in Ukrainian for MS Sharepoint which matches previous one http://office.microsoft.com/uk-ua/sharepoint-server-help/HA010105468.aspx, that seems to be the logic for Ukrainian used in MS products. Unfortunately there seems to be no official standard document (at least not in open access) to regulate all this technical details but explanations above match officially printed documents and dictionaries. I am going to add a patch to fix both UKR-IE and soft sign collation order shortly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.