[Bug localedata/18516] New: Inconsistent output

[Bug localedata/18516] New: Inconsistent output

[sworddragon2 at aol dot com]

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18516

            Bug ID: 18516
           Summary: Inconsistent output
           Product: glibc
           Version: 2.21
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
          Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
          Reporter: sworddragon2 at aol dot com
                CC: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
  Target Milestone: ---

If I'm executing the command locale I'm noticing that the most entries are
around a double quote while some are not. On my tests it looks like that values
which are defined on an environment variable aren't quoted while implied values
are. At least I couldn't find something in the manpage about it and if this
behavior is intended it should maybe get documented.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[carlos at redhat dot com]

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Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> changed:

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                 CC|                            |carlos at redhat dot com

--- Comment #1 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to sworddragon2 from comment #0)
> If I'm executing the command locale I'm noticing that the most entries are
> around a double quote while some are not. On my tests it looks like that
> values which are defined on an environment variable aren't quoted while
> implied values are. At least I couldn't find something in the manpage about
> it and if this behavior is intended it should maybe get documented.

Please provide more details. Exactly what you're seeing and what you expect and
why.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[sworddragon2 at aol dot com]

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sworddragon2 at aol dot com changed:

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             Status|WAITING                     |UNCONFIRMED
     Ever confirmed|1                           |0

--- Comment #2 from sworddragon2 at aol dot com ---
Here is the output:

sworddragon@ubuntu:~$ locale
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=


As you can see some entries are quoted and some not but I can't find anything
in the manpage about it.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[carlos at redhat dot com]

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Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEW
   Last reconfirmed|                            |2015-06-12
                 CC|                            |bugdal at aerifal dot cx
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
              Flags|                            |review?(bugdal at aerifal dot cx)

--- Comment #3 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to sworddragon2 from comment #2)
> Here is the output:
> 
> sworddragon@ubuntu:~$ locale
> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=
> LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_DE.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=
> 
> 
> As you can see some entries are quoted and some not but I can't find
> anything in the manpage about it.

The glibc code in question consciously chooses not to output quotes, but I
don't know why. It really doesn't matter.

Rich, Any thoughts on why this would be the case? I can't see anything in POSIX
that would require no quotes around say LANG, but glibc consciously calls some
internal functions to print with the dquote flag set to false.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[bugdal at aerifal dot cx]

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--- Comment #4 from Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> ---
This is not a bug; it is the behavior specified. See the STDOUT section of the
specification for the locale command:

http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/locale.html

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[myllynen at redhat dot com]

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Marko Myllynen <myllynen at redhat dot com> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Marko Myllynen <myllynen at redhat dot com> ---
Rich, thanks for the pointer, I've just sent a patch to clarify this on the
locale(1) man page as well:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-man&m=143411592031461&w=2

Thanks.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[carlos at redhat dot com]

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Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #6 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> ---
Rich,

Thanks. I certainly feel like an idiot having missed that whole section on why
the quoting is the way it is. Thanks for the pointer.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[bugdal at aerifal dot cx]

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--- Comment #7 from Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> ---
No problem. It's a bit confusing that the normative text on output format is
down in the "STDOUT" section rather than in the description; I just happened to
be familiar with that convention from seeing it a lot before.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[sworddragon2 at aol dot com]

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--- Comment #8 from sworddragon2 at aol dot com ---
I'm now just wondering why this ticket got marked as INVALID while it actually
contains a patch.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[bugdal at aerifal dot cx]

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--- Comment #9 from Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> ---
It's invalid because it's not a bug. The current behavior is correct.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[alexandre at objectdata dot com.br]

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--- Comment #10 from alexandre at objectdata dot com.br ---
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Em 13/06/2015 11:10, "carlos at redhat dot com" <
sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org> escreveu:

> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18516
>
> Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> changed:
>
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>          Resolution|---                         |INVALID
>
> --- Comment #6 from Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com> ---
> Rich,
>
> Thanks. I certainly feel like an idiot having missed that whole section on
> why
> the quoting is the way it is. Thanks for the pointer.
>
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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

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--- Comment #11 from sworddragon2 at aol dot com ---
(In reply to Rich Felker from comment #9)
> It's invalid because it's not a bug. The current behavior is correct.

Well, it was an issue with the manpage as pointed as a possibility in the
startpost (otherwise if this ticket is INVALID there should not be a patch
required). But at the end this shouldn't matter that much as long as this issue
gets fixed with the patch.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[myllynen at redhat dot com]

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--- Comment #12 from Marko Myllynen <myllynen at redhat dot com> ---
Man pages are not provided by glibc but in the separate Linux man pages project
so purely from glibc perspective there was nothing to be fixed in glibc. But as
you say, what actually matters is that issue gets fixed and indeed the fix is
now accepted in man-pages upstream and will be part of the next man-pages
release:

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/commit/?id=ca48cef151cb3dbfd0dba281f9074c9bd2675aac

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[sworddragon2 at aol dot com]

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--- Comment #13 from sworddragon2 at aol dot com ---
(In reply to Marko Myllynen from comment #12)
> Man pages are not provided by glibc but in the separate Linux man pages
> project so purely from glibc perspective there was nothing to be fixed in
> glibc.

That sounds plausible, thanks for the explanation.

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[Bug localedata/18516] Inconsistent output

[fweimer at redhat dot com]

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