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From: "malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm" <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org>
To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org
Subject: [Bug nptl/25847] pthread_cond_signal failed to wake up pthread_cond_wait due to a bug in undoing stealing
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 13:54:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-25847-131-cvhYgjOvQ9@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-25847-131@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/>

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25847

--- Comment #21 from Malte Skarupke <malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm> ---
Sorry, I continue to have very little energy to work on this. I have been
putting a little more work into it yesterday though, and I have more doubts now
that the mitigation patch is a long term solution.

I still think it's better than doing nothing, but it might introduce an even
more rare deadlock instead. It's even more rare, because while the current
deadlock triggers only in an edge case of an edge case, the new one would only
trigger in an edge case of said edge case of an edge case.

My suspicions come from trying to make one of the alternative solutions
mentioned in the patch email chain work, which was to do something similar to
the mitigation patch, but to signal for the correct group instead of
broadcasting. I couldn't make that alternative change work, and I reduced the
problem down to calling this right in front of the "We potentially stole a
signal" check:

  __condvar_acquire_lock (cond, private);
  __condvar_release_lock (cond, private);

Just taking and releasing the internal lock can deadlock in some of the tests.
(most often in sysdeps/pthread/tst-cond16.c) The mitigation patch will call
these functions. Most of the time that doesn't deadlock, and I haven't found
out what exactly causes the deadlock (I'll instead put my limited energy back
into a second version of my emailed patch), but the fact that unconditionally
calling the above will deadlock should give us suspicion that calling the above
conditionally might also sometimes deadlock. It's impossible to reproduce in
the glibc tests because it's even more rare than the original problem, so I
think the mitigation patch is still a little better than doing nothing.

Otherwise I think the patch I emailed is still good, (unlike my patch attached
to this issue) and I aim to have a second version out, maybe on the weekend,
that addresses the comments in the email conversation.

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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-18  8:04 [Bug nptl/25847] New: " qin.li at thetradedesk dot com
2020-04-18  8:07 ` [Bug nptl/25847] " qin.li at thetradedesk dot com
2020-04-20 17:52 ` qin.li at thetradedesk dot com
2020-05-05 11:50 ` arun11299 at gmail dot com
2020-05-05 11:52 ` arun11299 at gmail dot com
2020-05-14  8:52 ` dingxiangfei2009 at protonmail dot ch
2020-05-19 21:15 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2020-10-08 19:07 ` michael.bacarella at gmail dot com
2020-10-10  8:11 ` flo at geekplace dot eu
2020-10-12 20:53 ` anssi.hannula at iki dot fi
2020-10-13 16:50 ` guillaume at morinfr dot org
2020-10-16 20:23 ` kirichenkoga at gmail dot com
2020-10-18 22:55 ` michael.bacarella at gmail dot com
2020-10-20 20:12 ` kirichenkoga at gmail dot com
2020-10-20 20:17 ` kirichenkoga at gmail dot com
2020-11-01 13:58 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2020-11-01 15:40 ` michael.bacarella at gmail dot com
2020-11-15  2:45 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2020-11-23 10:37 ` ydroneaud at opteya dot com
2020-11-23 16:36 ` mattst88 at gmail dot com
2020-11-23 16:46 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org
2020-12-07 15:41 ` balint at balintreczey dot hu
2020-12-09  3:22 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2020-12-24 20:02 ` triegel at redhat dot com
2020-12-25 16:19 ` triegel at redhat dot com
2021-01-07  1:09 ` manojgupta at google dot com
2021-01-07  7:31 ` balint at balintreczey dot hu
2021-01-07 13:54 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm [this message]
2021-01-07 20:43 ` triegel at redhat dot com
2021-01-07 23:31 ` triegel at redhat dot com
2021-01-08  3:45 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2021-01-16  0:21 ` triegel at redhat dot com
2021-01-16  0:23 ` triegel at redhat dot com
2021-01-30  0:59 ` michael.bacarella at gmail dot com
2021-02-07 17:38 ` slav.isv at gmail dot com
2021-03-09 15:18 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
2021-04-06  0:37 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-06  1:17 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-06 14:32 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-06 16:49 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-11 12:12 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2021-04-11 12:13 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2021-04-13 12:21 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-14 16:57 ` qin.li at thetradedesk dot com
2021-04-15 14:13 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-15 14:34 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-04-30 17:41 ` venkiram_be at yahoo dot co.in
2021-05-04 22:48 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-05-04 22:51 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-05-04 22:58 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2021-05-13 13:25 ` tuliom at ascii dot art.br
2021-06-14 13:31 ` willireamangel at gmail dot com
2021-07-09  1:41 ` uwydoc at gmail dot com
2021-07-15  0:55 ` benh at kernel dot crashing.org
2021-08-16  9:41 ` evgeny+sourceware at loop54 dot com
2021-09-13 16:50 ` dushistov at mail dot ru
2021-09-22 19:03 ` evgeny+sourceware at loop54 dot com
2021-09-22 19:07 ` balint at balintreczey dot hu
2021-09-24  0:18 ` tuliom at ascii dot art.br
2021-09-24  0:58 ` michael.bacarella at gmail dot com
2021-09-29 11:50 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-10-21 15:42 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-10-30 22:17 ` sam at gentoo dot org
2021-11-25 14:49 ` arekm at maven dot pl
2022-09-18  5:38 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2022-09-18 20:06 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2022-09-19  3:38 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2022-09-24  0:03 ` bugzilla at dimebar dot com
2022-09-24 10:15 ` ismail at i10z dot com
2022-09-26 14:28 ` ehagberg at janestreet dot com
2022-09-26 14:32 ` ehagberg at janestreet dot com
2022-10-06 21:58 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2022-10-07 12:01 ` crrodriguez at opensuse dot org
2022-10-15 19:57 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2022-11-07 18:23 ` sourceware-bugzilla at djr61 dot uk
2023-01-28 14:57 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2023-05-01 12:52 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-05-02 12:57 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-05-03  3:04 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2023-05-04  4:57 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2023-05-04 12:24 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-05-05 23:44 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-05-10 21:29 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2023-05-10 21:39 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2023-05-11  0:22 ` frankbarrus_sw at shaggy dot cc
2023-05-11 12:01 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-05-11 12:05 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-05-13  4:10 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2023-08-24 20:24 ` jwakely.gcc at gmail dot com
2023-09-26 12:33 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2023-09-26 12:38 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2024-01-05  7:31 ` malteskarupke at fastmail dot fm
2024-02-17  9:44 ` github at kalvdans dot no-ip.org

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