From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by sourceware.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id BDF763858027; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:37:15 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org BDF763858027 From: "fweimer at redhat dot com" To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug libc/29437] arc4random is too slow Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 12:37:15 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: libc X-Bugzilla-Version: 2.36 X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: fweimer at redhat dot com X-Bugzilla-Status: NEW X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Glibc-bugs mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 12:37:15 -0000 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D29437 --- Comment #8 from Florian Weimer --- (In reply to Cristian Rodr=C3=ADguez from comment #4) > (In reply to Miroslav Lichvar from comment #0) >=20 > > This can be fixed easily in the chrony source code, but I thought it mi= ght > > be a good example of a real-world application impacted by this change a= nd > > there could be others. >=20 > You need a PRNG, seeded by a single call to arc4random_buf.. (xoroshiro12= 8+?) > People are unfortunately rejecting your usecase as invalid because this d= oes > not require a csprng. :-( (to me that sums up everything that is wrong, y= ou > known you don't need one, but notmal averege joe programmer has no idea of > all the subtleties ans is stuck with using random() ..) Absolutely not. The idea behind arc4random is that an entire distribution c= an use this function without worrying performance or properties of the generat= ed stream of randomness. It was designed for a search-and-replace of calls to random, without case-by-case reviews if the change is actually required for security reasons. If the glibc implementation does not meet that, we have failed. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=