From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by sourceware.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id ABD933857C46; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:51:24 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org ABD933857C46 From: "adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org" To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug libc/29437] arc4random is too slow Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 12:51:24 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: libc X-Bugzilla-Version: 2.36 X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org X-Bugzilla-Status: NEW X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Glibc-bugs mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 12:51:24 -0000 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D29437 --- Comment #15 from Adhemerval Zanella --- (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #12) > (In reply to Adhemerval Zanella from comment #9) > > (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #7) > > > (In reply to Adhemerval Zanella from comment #6) > > > > For example, when a virtual machine is forked, restored, or duplica= ted, it's > > > > imperative that the RNG doesn't generate the same outputs. For this= reason, > > > > there's a small protocol between hypervisors and the kernel that in= dicates > > > > this has happened, alongside some ID, which the RNG uses to reseed > > > > immediately, so as not to return the same numbers. > > >=20 > > > Except that this doesn't work because if the suspend/resume happens a= little > > > bit later, the unprotected application buffer to which the random dat= a has > > > been written is restore multiple times. So clearly the actual rules a= round > > > this are different and much more complicated. > >=20 > > I am not following, which buffer are you referring? The kernel one > > application will be poll with arc4random/getrandom or the possible one > > maintained by application itself with a previous arc4random call? >=20 > If suspended right after arc4random () returms, this >=20 > printf ("%u\n", (unsigned int) arc4random ()); >=20 > will print the same number after each resumption. So explicit_bzero will not clear all the buffer if the machine is stop/resu= med in the middle of the operation. It is still used an hardening mechanism. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=