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From: "adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org" <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org> To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug libc/30558] SIGEV_THREAD is badly implemented Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:15:29 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <bug-30558-131-bnBDA2Vk5u@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> (raw) In-Reply-To: <bug-30558-131@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30558 --- Comment #13 from Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org> --- (In reply to Stas Sergeev from comment #12) > > And since it is the kernel that keep track of the overrun, the reentrancy > > issue is not really related on the overrun itself, but rather on the sigval > > argument. > > Overruns are measured between signal queue > and dequeue. Linux fixes that scheme by > actually measuring between 2 subsequent > dequeues AFAIKS, though doesn't matter. > What matters is that, because of reentrancy, > the handler will query the overruns after > another signal was already delivered, so > the result would be a complete garbage. Ok, I now see what you mean here. Indeed afaik Linux reset the overrun time on each sigtimedwait syscall. > > > My understanding from the quote you borght is not that it is specified > > that concurrent threads are allowed or not > > Let me quote again then: > [quote] > the threads created in response to a timer expiration are created detached, > or in an unspecified way if the thread attribute's detachstate is > PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE. > [/quote] > > Three things are being said here: > 1. Threads are created in a response to every timer expiration Reading the SIGEV_THREAD description [1], it is not clear to me that a new thread should be created for *every* timer expiration from the same timer. In fact, POSIX also advises against it on the timer_settime application because of the concurrent stack usage issue [2]. So, the current scheme has the additional drawback that a user-specific stack is really not safe. > 2. They are detached > 3. The user can specify PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE, in which > case the behavior is implementation-specific. > > I propose to use 3 as a base for implementing > PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE case first, then see > what remains. But POSIX explicitly states that the thread is *not* joinable ("In neither case is it valid to call pthread_join()"), and as I said it makes even tricker to handle the per-timer thread (what happens to the timer after the thread is joined? Should pthread_join issue timer_delete? What happens if there thread if cancelled or issue pthread_exit?). [1] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/V2_chap02.html [2] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/timer_settime.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-19 21:15 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2023-06-15 19:36 [Bug libc/30558] New: " stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-15 21:04 ` [Bug libc/30558] " adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-16 2:23 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-16 6:44 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-16 7:29 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-16 7:51 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-16 11:44 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-19 17:41 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-19 18:54 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-19 19:33 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-19 19:48 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-19 20:14 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-19 20:26 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-19 21:15 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org [this message] 2023-06-19 21:21 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-19 21:58 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-19 22:51 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-20 4:14 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-20 12:21 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-20 12:49 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-20 13:01 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-20 13:13 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-21 3:19 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-21 14:32 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-21 14:41 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-21 14:43 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-21 14:52 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-21 15:07 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-22 2:57 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx 2023-06-22 5:23 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net 2023-06-23 18:34 ` adhemerval.zanella at linaro dot org 2023-06-24 17:03 ` crrodriguez at opensuse dot org
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