From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27267 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2001 01:25:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fencepost.gnu.org) (199.232.76.164) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 01:25:52 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16KqlF-0000TT-00; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:05 -0500 Received: from mail44-s.fg.online.no ([148.122.161.44] helo=mail44.fg.online.no) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16KqiL-0000BF-00 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:54:05 -0500 Received: from hoolabaloo2.clustra.com (ti531210a060-0116.dialup.online.no [130.67.165.244]) by mail44.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17520; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:54:01 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011231014113.00a12330@10.10.1.1> X-Sender: yngves@10.10.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: Milan Zamazal From: Yngve Svendsen Subject: Re: gnats/263 Cc: help-gnats@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87k7vyn41q.fsf@blackbird.zamazal.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: help-gnats-admin@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnats-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnats@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General discussion about GNU GNATS List-Archive: Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 14:00:00 -0000 X-SW-Source: 2001-q4/txt/msg00170.txt.bz2 At 21:55 07.12.01 +0100, Milan Zamazal wrote: >We shouldn't be so much generous, since this would make the distribution >significantly larger. I think we should include Info; PostScript and >HTML are under consideration, there is no point in inclusion of DVI and >PDF, IMHO. The fact that the distribution would be larger is a valid point, but I think the case for including PDF is strong (DVI isn't very important, since it for most purposes is simply a step in the creation of a Postscript file), since Info and Postscript are cumbersome formats to handle when you aren't on a Linux / UNIX platform. Very few Windows machines have software installed that allows Postscript viewing on-sceen, and even sending a Postscript file to the printer from a Windows machine is a challenge. Thus, I'd ask you to reconsider, and if PDF isn't included we should at the very least provide a downloadable version from the GNU website. A raw PDF created from the current manual runs at 365kB gzipped, but I believe that running it through an optimization in Adobe Acrobat should reduce the size significantly. - Yngve _______________________________________________ Help-gnats mailing list Help-gnats@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnats From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Yngve Svendsen To: Milan Zamazal Cc: help-gnats@gnu.org Subject: Re: gnats/263 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:25:00 -0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011231014113.00a12330@10.10.1.1> References: <87k7vyn41q.fsf@blackbird.zamazal.org> X-SW-Source: 2001-q4/msg00291.html Message-ID: <20011230172500.AWHFNBUhdn0WBcVpOxTUTJOIsZuf_rWzeAtoHfx2PNE@z> At 21:55 07.12.01 +0100, Milan Zamazal wrote: >We shouldn't be so much generous, since this would make the distribution >significantly larger. I think we should include Info; PostScript and >HTML are under consideration, there is no point in inclusion of DVI and >PDF, IMHO. The fact that the distribution would be larger is a valid point, but I think the case for including PDF is strong (DVI isn't very important, since it for most purposes is simply a step in the creation of a Postscript file), since Info and Postscript are cumbersome formats to handle when you aren't on a Linux / UNIX platform. Very few Windows machines have software installed that allows Postscript viewing on-sceen, and even sending a Postscript file to the printer from a Windows machine is a challenge. Thus, I'd ask you to reconsider, and if PDF isn't included we should at the very least provide a downloadable version from the GNU website. A raw PDF created from the current manual runs at 365kB gzipped, but I believe that running it through an optimization in Adobe Acrobat should reduce the size significantly. - Yngve _______________________________________________ Help-gnats mailing list Help-gnats@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnats