From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8948 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2002 11:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fencepost.gnu.org) (199.232.76.164) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2002 11:45:16 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16LNJ1-0005f7-00; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 06:42:07 -0500 Received: from sokol.skynet.cz ([193.165.254.8]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16LNHy-0005aM-00 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 06:41:02 -0500 X-Envelope-To: help-gnats@gnu.org Received: from blackbird.zamazal.org (mail@asasync69.skynet.cz [193.165.192.169]) by sokol.skynet.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26527; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:40:48 +0100 (envelope-from pdm@zamazal.org) Received: from pdm by blackbird.zamazal.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16LNH2-0008M6-00; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 12:40:04 +0100 To: Yngve Svendsen Cc: help-gnats@gnu.org Subject: Re: gnats/263 References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011231014113.00a12330@10.10.1.1> X-Face: >kl&pL}(a*u\BCj7Q,\Yoq35~,4dAu"CPGaJ[ahMli9uu#aF7dWxc3L.eaK2RWRU|',E+. -':&gJ-JAZ/N$f^4-3?G7M&Knna[A=lJ$}^!%@vuvulVl6-)x.V8RZ7fW9< From: Milan Zamazal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011231014113.00a12330@10.10.1.1> Message-ID: <87g05rufua.fsf@blackbird.zamazal.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: help-gnats-admin@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnats-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnats@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General discussion about GNU GNATS List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:45:00 -0000 X-SW-Source: 2002-q1/txt/msg00000.txt.bz2 >>>>> "YS" == Yngve Svendsen writes: YS> The fact that the distribution would be larger is a valid point, YS> but I think the case for including PDF is strong (DVI isn't very YS> important, since it for most purposes is simply a step in the YS> creation of a Postscript file), since Info and Postscript are YS> cumbersome formats to handle when you aren't on a Linux / UNIX YS> platform. Very few Windows machines have software installed that YS> allows Postscript viewing on-sceen, and even sending a YS> Postscript file to the printer from a Windows machine is a YS> challenge. To install and run GNATS you need a real machine available so this is no strong argument :-). YS> Thus, I'd ask you to reconsider, and if PDF isn't included we YS> should at the very least provide a downloadable version from the YS> GNU website. First, the Postscript file included in the beta1 distribution tarball is a mistake, I haven't intended to include it. I wanted to include only Info files. PDF, Postscript and HTML (this one as both tar.gz and an on-line manual) will be available from the GNATS web site (is it worth to create them already for beta1?). The reason for inclusion of Info files is that on-line documentation, unlike manuals intended basically for printing only, is a part of the standard software installation. YS> A raw PDF created from the current manual runs at 365kB gzipped, YS> but I believe that running it through an optimization in Adobe YS> Acrobat should reduce the size significantly. I don't think it's a good idea to provide something that can't be created with free tools. Regards, Milan Zamazal -- http://www.zamazal.org _______________________________________________ Help-gnats mailing list Help-gnats@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnats