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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
Cc: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	       GCC <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	       Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
	gnu-gabi@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Invalid program counters and unwinding
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180702155448.GW7166@tucnak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1807021743390.15410@wotan.suse.de>

On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 05:48:32PM +0200, Michael Matz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, Jeff Law wrote:
> 
> > I believe "dumb" is referring to the fact that we're already in a bit of 
> > a weird state as evidenced by the NULL FDE.  Blindly trying to read the 
> > contents of the PC that we couldn't map to an FDE is, IMHO, dumb.
> > 
> > One might even be able to argue in this day and age that we should have 
> > suitable descriptors for everything.  If no suitable descriptor is found 
> > then backtracing should stop.  Lack of suitable descriptors in any code 
> > would be considered a bug in that scenario.
> 
> I disagree.  ASM code often lacks unwind descriptors (now less than in the 
> past, but still).  My rule of thumb is always: no descriptor -> has to be 
> a framepointer-using routine with standard calling sequence.  (I.e. 
> declare the combination of no descriptor and no fp to be a bug).  Some of 
> the callee-saved register will temporarily be wrong but unwinding can 
> continue.

Doesn't that clash with the x86-64 ABI which says what kind of FDE use by
default if none is found (essentially a standard leaf routine that doesn't
change sp, nor save any registers)?

	Jakub

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-02 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-01  0:00 Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00 ` Jeff Law
2018-01-01  0:00   ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Jeff Law
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Michael Matz
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Michael Matz
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00 ` Nathan Sidwell
2018-01-01  0:00   ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Jakub Jelinek
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Nathan Sidwell
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Nathan Sidwell
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Nathan Sidwell
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Jakub Jelinek

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