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From: Fangrui Song <i@maskray.me>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, Cary Coutant <ccoutant@gmail.com>,
	"Zhang, Annita" <annita.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Hongtao" <hongtao.liu@intel.com>,
	gnu-gabi <gnu-gabi@sourceware.org>,
	Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: binutils ld and new PT_GNU_PROPERTY segment
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 00:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200219182701.vrtzwhgtpelmpaub@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOr7=hYan1h=4BmqZ9Ep8dou_E_BBg0UjXBavi6x4cTWZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2020-02-19, H.J. Lu wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:17 AM Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2020-02-19 at 04:28 -0800, H.J. Lu wrote:
>> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 4:02 AM Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> wrote:
>> > > > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11285409/
>> > > >
>> > > > It is for both x86 and arm64.
>> > >
>> > > So that is not upstream in the mainline kernel? Why can't that patch
>> > > use the existing PT_NOTE segment? That would make it compatible with
>> > > existing binaries that don't have this PT_GNU_PROPERTY program header.
>> >
>> > Kernel loader is one of motivations of PT_GNU_PROPERTY.  Kernel loader
>> > only wants to check PT_XXX.
>>
>> So they can check PT_NOTE because it provides the same information and
>> is already available in existing binaries.
>>
>
>Please take a look at glibc note.gnu.property parser.  It is very complicated to
>check for invalid .note.gnu.property sections generated by the older
>linkers with
>the new object.  Kernel loader doesn't want to do it.

One way to make things follow the spirit of https://sourceware.org/ml/gnu-gabi/2018-q4/msg00036.html

* Define SHT_GNU_PROPERTY
* Set sh_type(.note.gnu.property) to SHT_GNU_PROPERTY
* Place SHT_GNU_PROPERTY sections in a PT_GNU_PROPERTY segment

The generated PT_NOTE will not include .note.gnu.property, so the scheme is compatible with old loaders (ld.so, gdb, Linux, etc).
New loaders should interpret PT_GNU_PROPERTY, instead of PT_NOTE.
   ( https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11285409/ needs no change)

This way linkers can keep treating SHT_NOTE sections as opaque and apply "Rules for Linking Unrecognized Sections" (http://www.sco.com/developers/gabi/latest/ch4.sheader.html ) when combining SHT_NOTE sections. At least for lld, there will be no special rules for input SHT_NOTE sections.

I will be happy to make changes to lld and LLVM binary utilities if this
scheme reaches consensus.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-19 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-01  0:00 Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00 ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00   ` Fangrui Song via gnu-gabi
2020-01-01  0:00     ` Zhang, Annita
2020-01-01  0:00     ` Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00       ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00         ` Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00           ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00             ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00             ` Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00               ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00                 ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2020-01-01  0:00                   ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00                     ` Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00                       ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00                         ` Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00                           ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00                             ` Mark Wielaard
2020-01-01  0:00                               ` Fangrui Song
2020-04-01  8:46                                 ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-01  9:22                                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-01  9:29                                     ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-01 10:10                                       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-01 10:21                                         ` Florian Weimer
2020-01-01  0:00                             ` Fangrui Song
2020-01-01  0:00                               ` H.J. Lu
2020-01-01  0:00   ` Mark Wielaard

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