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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: GNU gABI gnu-gabi <gnu-gabi@sourceware.org>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org
Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] RFC: Add GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:34:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210618213450.qdasgofw6hklzxip@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOoBh7fTD6HYK3dRzt3Qs7jOjioXwT7SzqBS_449yjHPrQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2021-06-18, H.J. Lu via llvm-dev wrote:
>Add GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED:
>
> #define GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED      GNU_PROPERTY_UINT32_OR_LO
>
>to indicate the needed properties by the object file.
>

I am fine with this logical OR style usage. But see below, do we need it
for ld.so runtime check?

(As I mentioned previously, I do not know how an AND-style property can
be used/deployed if old object files without the .note.gnu.property is
considered to have a value of 0.)

>Add GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_SINGLE_GLOBAL_DEFINITION:
>
> #define GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_SINGLE_GLOBAL_DEFINITION  (1U << 0)
>
>to indicate that the object file requires canonical function pointers and
>cannot be used with copy relocation.

In https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gnu-gabi/2021q2/000481.html you gave
a rationale

"The issue is that libfoo.so used in link-time can be different from
  libfoo.so at run-time.   The symbol, foobar, in libfoo.so at link-time
  has the default visibility.  But foobar in libfoo.so at run-time can be
  protected.  ld.so should detect such cases which can lead to run-time
  failures."

First, I think such dynamic symbol visibility change is uncommon.

Second, if ld.so finds that a symbol lookup for (st_value==0
st_shndx==SHN_UNDEF) will bind to a STV_PROTECTED definition in a shared
object, can the diagnostic be moved there?
The compatibility property is per-symbol and the symbol lookup is a
perfect place for a diagnostic, like a symbol versioning error.


I guess GCC folks may get noticed if you start a thread adding
-fsingle-global-definition, otherwise many people who have opinions may
just ignore threads about GNU PROPERTY addition.

>
>The PDF file is at
>
>https://gitlab.com/x86-psABIs/Linux-ABI/-/wikis/uploads/9eca2f2defe62b0c5015bf2e3e8a9f05/Linux-gABI-1_needed-2021-06-18.pdf

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-18 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-13 17:06 RFC: Add GNU_PROPERTY_UINT32_AND_XXX/GNU_PROPERTY_UINT32_OR_XXX H.J. Lu
2021-01-21 15:02 ` H.J. Lu
2021-01-21 21:42   ` Fangrui Song
2021-04-17 12:48     ` H.J. Lu
2021-04-17 18:25       ` Fangrui Song
2021-04-17 19:05         ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-17 18:59   ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-17 19:38     ` [llvm-dev] " Fangrui Song
2021-06-17 19:45       ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-17 20:25         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-06-17 23:01           ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-18  0:06             ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-06-18  0:24               ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-18  0:49                 ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-06-18  2:40                   ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-21 14:35                     ` Michael Matz
2021-06-22 14:30                       ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-22 14:54                         ` Michael Matz
2021-06-18  2:45                   ` H.J. Lu
2021-06-18 15:38 ` RFC: Add GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED H.J. Lu
2021-06-18 21:34   ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2021-06-19  1:09     ` [llvm-dev] " H.J. Lu

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