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From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>, GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	gnu-gabi@sourceware.org,
	 Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.gcc@googlemail.com>,
	Cary Coutant <ccoutant@gmail.com>,  Joe Groff <jgroff@apple.com>,
	Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com>, Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
	 nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: Preventing preemption of 'protected' symbols in GNU ld 2.26
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 00:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOr51WafYHSQXqQggTqvYSjBLZSni63nLgsbsLeDCtMjMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5711188D.3000500@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 04/15/2016 10:16 AM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/03/16 14:26, Ramana Radhakrishnan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/30/2016 06:40 PM, Cary Coutant wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would help me immensely on the GCC side if things if you and Alan
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> easily summarize correct behavior and the impact if we were to just
>>>>>>> revert
>>>>>>> HJ's change.  A testcase would be amazingly helpful too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like it's not just the one change. There's this patch:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-07/msg01871.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which took the idea that protected can still be pre-empted by a COPY
>>>>>> relocation and extended it to three more targets that use COPY
>>>>>> relocations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder how many other patches have been based on the same
>>>>>> misunderstanding?
>>>
>>>
>>> (sorry i missed this thread)
>>>
>>> this was not a misunderstanding.
>>>
>>> that patch is necessary for correctness (odr) in
>>> the presence of copy relocations as described in
>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-09/msg02365.html
>>> and
>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55012
>>>
>>> this was a long standing code gen bug in gcc and was
>>> about time to fix it (it was also broken in glibc's
>>> dynamic linker, but e.g. not in musl libc).
>>>
>>> (i don't see what is the issue with using the copy in
>>> the main executable from a shared library, performance
>>> is not a correctness issue, nor how it is possible to
>>> avoid the copy relocs.)
>>>
>>
>> Here is my understanding:
>>
>> Copy relocation and protected visibility are fundamentally incompatible.
>> On on hand, copy relocation is the part of the psABI and is used to
>> access global data defined in a shared object from the executable.  It
>> moves the definition of global data, which is defined in a share object,
>> to the executable at run-time.  On the other hand, protected visibility
>> indicates that a symbol is defined locally in the shared object at
>> run-time.  Both can't be true at the same time.  The current solution
>> is to make protected symbol more or less like normal symbol, which
>> prevents optimizing local access to protected symbol within the shared
>> object.
>>
>> I propose to add GNU_PROPERTY_NO_COPY_ON_PROTECTED:
>>
>> https://github.com/hjl-tools/linux-abi/wiki/Linux-Extensions-to-gABI
>>
>> GNU_PROPERTY_NO_COPY_ON_PROTECTED This indicates that there
>> should be no copy relocations against protected data symbols. If a
>> relocat-
>> able object contains this property, linker should treat protected data
>> symbol
>> as defined locally at run-time and copy this property to the output share
>> object. Linker should add this property to the output share object if any
>> pro-
>> tected symbol is expected to be defined locally at run-time. Run-time
>> loader
>> should disallow copy relocations against protected data symbols defined in
>> share objects with GNU_PROPERTY_NO_COPY_ON_PROTECTED prop-
>> erty. Its PR_DATASZ should be 0.
>
> I'd strongly suggest discussing directly with Carlos, Cary and Alan.  My
> worry here is this just adding another layer of stuff to deal with a
> fundamentally broken concept -- protected visibility.
>

Adding glibc.

Protected symbol has been a tricky issue for glibc and binutils
from day 1.  We have special treatment for pointers of protected
functions in both ld and ld.so.  Protected symbol is a useful
feature.  It just doesn't work with copy relocation.  My proposal
will make it work for psABIs with copy relocation by disallowing
copy relocation on protected symbol.  Linker change is minimum
and it will bypass extra symbol lookups in ld.so.


-- 
H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-15 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-01  0:00 H.J. Lu
2016-01-01  0:00 ` Jeff Law
2016-01-01  0:00   ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2016-01-01  0:00 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-01  0:00   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-01  0:00     ` Szabolcs Nagy

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