From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 108019 invoked by alias); 6 Oct 2018 08:44:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gnutools-advocacy-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: Sender: gnutools-advocacy-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 108007 invoked by uid 89); 6 Oct 2018 08:44:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Checked: by ClamAV 0.100.1 on sourceware.org X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=collectively, HX-Received:e645, impose, our X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on sourceware.org X-Spam-Level: X-HELO: mail-wr1-f43.google.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:cc:from:message-id; bh=HDWU6Nm+NzoJ8K6b8omiA+Es5oF42RWe4ro2zdd4JFA=; b=E+cTqoaUZj7jJX6UC5lWdyxrv7WQFdd/b2HptnOztMYLOir6lM0P/yT8Hs1o43714h ra6eQty2h9vqQ4yb/MmubL1floEy9TZ9OBdHIdb+Al5X/MBGKwd5CcB9dcdaTNf2bL3U +GRgksy0RKHna1lrLkHaoNFXG4Oya7poiA9HUEiCAWMdu48fe2szKrVJSiZLTMqmoRjy 96+Df+z125v1YxYUCQZbTDCACwvNLRhesD216SddiVKGO9TbokRyOUwu2p9Ad8biAvzy 4xznACwC76IOO7VHBuSqaz7PQeXMLN5rxv5mUR9v/bKlyONPtvO1vZSE095PWHWtQ09R LU7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:cc:from :message-id; bh=HDWU6Nm+NzoJ8K6b8omiA+Es5oF42RWe4ro2zdd4JFA=; b=T9741ekNVsXNfSC4GbGPt3iqS2BmztApITCT8nebetktpgR09neNcknt3HD8ZUWwVA jWn3yRGo21M1McqpIBYazd5Mk2ZoQk/w1BOMGhkrVDBqkIW538C8aaiU4DwK45y40e/K Qp7EIzsjpLPNd2Kt6watk6Sv40WuwFDfszLc0aRiArjsLacAKXyTkQpuL+93zQ9fHIjU W2JbbkdCTk8q9kK4wOyVc/Y9FFGqCNEfHfrt5MDKGuwG52364mF/DRwu6DZVfPikJHej ja9rxSp2m72x9498MBo2s53Wfb1r6klhIl8PqMp6F3CLo4kMZMKQAQiQUIvxiMRjI6CH iXIA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoi2bombM0fQPnuUjsmAh4+Os35DsC4CS7iA4tIFG0Bihh0H8c30 uk7ITkL6szw0ik/OaLoag8WwEq+L X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63FSHV9YJcUfe5etRW+abxGEhAi7/RngoTIVcf6RGDqLHN/t5dFesWS2RWvHmerDnIGDSS7fA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e645:: with SMTP id b5-v6mr11243188wrn.324.1538815439666; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 01:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <29850D75-B7F9-41FA-8E38-B8B4915D36BC@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GNU toolchain web page To: gnutools-advocacy@gcc.gnu.org,Alexandre Oliva ,David Edelsohn CC: "Richard M. Stallman" ,Carlos O'Donell ,iains.gcc@gmail.com From: Richard Biener Message-ID: <45AA782B-502B-4BE9-9CBB-76917338CBD0@gmail.com> X-SW-Source: 2018-q4/txt/msg00018.txt.bz2 On October 6, 2018 9:19:12 AM GMT+02:00, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On Oct 5, 2018, David Edelsohn wrote: > >> Part of our freedom is the freedom to use the tools that we choose. > >Maybe I shall point out the resemblance to the philosophical argument >on >whether one has the freedom to enslave oneself. > >But it suffices for me to say that I did not choose to use those tools. > >If we're going to decide collectively what tools we're going to use as >a >group, then we presumably won't choose tools that are not usable by >some >of us. > >Now, if some are going to impose their choices on others, that's >definitely not what my understanding of what freedom is about. It's the freedom of choice for the contributor. The project can of course r= eject contributions but in this case it's the content that counts, not the = delivery method.=20 Richard.=20