From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94515 invoked by alias); 5 Oct 2018 19:33:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gnutools-advocacy-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: Sender: gnutools-advocacy-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 94502 invoked by uid 89); 5 Oct 2018 19:33:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Checked: by ClamAV 0.100.1 on sourceware.org X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_SHORT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=richard.guenther@gmail.com, richardguenthergmailcom, marketing, companies X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_SHORT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on sourceware.org X-Spam-Level: X-HELO: mail-wm1-f45.google.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nuOxJyL/ByhcKhpn6C4Ad/q3mNf/DNEjmA3VyxPe6gE=; b=LdC+UNo8UFSuaXAQM6pHOUTpmj1urheBRAzXxyKUc3G4BSXbQ5o3NXvg+5nFzcNe3e bK2C01R/QZhfktt1S++/imVmb9ovjvakPdcU0gFWmqBp5duGUOxBHVeMXue9GcWAUY8G nQLMjBfImHtrY9dszmUWjNyr3z9yIGr/HDfs3E7bOr1UsiumHvqB6Riki7fPhrJhG5EJ i/qhgAIU1cXcucpqKdfle4KqBaU7bZDD5T4M5D18eInL8vtd+g8ob0Rd7cDNAOxc60Jq B6f+XbST/BdmRBHHI97GBUHD46DKT8MQPHUtU9I2phN7bG5lSX1ux7uuEu4xSJRDG+F0 QIfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nuOxJyL/ByhcKhpn6C4Ad/q3mNf/DNEjmA3VyxPe6gE=; b=LJZyM14k3Lw33PiZEF/tWzwCO09fOlIG+m6Mnv+ccXLkZPgEtIF1ywAWOTHzyWmrm2 fIBQtZzIXaTw35gWeKiZN8hnYNK2AvSfhVTtd8GNRwxIjyjLAyaZudCAUByquzsn6KHH HYqAYVBr/jYmBrEzIwMxm4WVMrNNLemVL/qWe3lTUXZtH5eZRJT6+Nqiar696m7pLXtY S/IRWvQjPagzsapLuaXMaQMI+1m5Dt8Fs0VtYqAQKL/q1R/6OYYce1+TstQALaZEGyTV ekSVP8jE+lDCugUJLFQ86zjeXIXZsFWCodkuNYDjRJM9pj1gMp87VIJQno0aIVrbp/EB jhEA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohxjwG5gHPdzsUGDQ6eg14WBJ1LQ8X35vvwVv9CovBrEZdfbASv 6qFSNgbfccK0kx4w+NGMdEMgwwdl4n9ZJ3NdHT0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61Q7CIDg6ajqXskTaIXY6PDTrtWRBkKPVl9Bp3vmDlUaZ+AMzfGimn8jHCEiGIWPyQDs7XLBU0u1dgkAVz2Cgk= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:13c4:: with SMTP id 187-v6mr8968459wmt.66.1538768031521; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:33:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <29850D75-B7F9-41FA-8E38-B8B4915D36BC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: David Edelsohn Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNU toolchain web page To: Richard Biener Cc: gnutools-advocacy@gcc.gnu.org, "Carlos O'Donell" , iains.gcc@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SW-Source: 2018-q4/txt/msg00013.txt.bz2 I have updated the mock-up with a new, simple landing page with a link for "Users" and a link for "Developers", and the previous information page moved to dev.html. https://edelsohn.github.io/gnutools/ We can expand the new landing page to a sleeker landing page similar to e-commerce sites. - David On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:03 PM Richard Biener wrote: > > On October 5, 2018 7:36:48 PM GMT+02:00, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > >I'd rather see a consistent use and clear developer naming. > > > >e.g. > >dev.gnutools.org / dev.gnu.tools / dev.gnutoolchain.org = Developer > >landing page. > >www.gnutools.org / www.gnu.tools / www.gnutoolchain.org = Marketing > >landing page. > > > >Thoughts? > > Just make sure to make it easily possible to go from one to the other as people are going to land on the wrong one whatever scheme you end up with. > > So I'd do a single 'neutral' landing page with content targeting both. > > Richard. > > > > >On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 1:33 PM David Edelsohn > >wrote: > >> > >> We also have registered gnutools.org and gnutoolchain.org. > >> > >> Maybe gnutools.org for dev and gnutoolchain.org for marketing. > >> > >> - David > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 1:27 PM Carlos O'Donell > > wrote: > >> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:16 AM David Edelsohn > >wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I propose that we want to target two different audiences and, as > >a > >> > > stretch goal, want two distinct web sites. > >> > > > >> > > 1) A focal point for users and developers to access information. > >> > > > >> > > 2) A marketing landing page with testimonials, like a startup > >> > > e-commerce landing page. > >> > > > >> > > They can be combined, but each has a different style and feel. > >> > > >> > A high level marketing landing page with slick graphics feels like > >it > >> > should be the first thing you see. > >> > > >> > Followed by a "developer" button for developers to jump into a > >sub-page. > >> > > >> > However... some companies split this in two. > >> > > >> > See for example: > >> > > >> > https://www.wix.com/ > >> > > >> > vs. > >> > > >> > https://dev.wix.com/ > >> > > >> > There is almost no overlap between the two sites. You have to > >scroll > >> > to the very bottom of the first page and click "Developers" under > >> > "Product" get to dev.wix.com, *but* Google searches can take you > >> > directly to dev.wix.com. > >> > > >> > We have registered gnu.tools, so we could also use dev.gnu.tools to > >> > take you to a developer facing page vs. www.gnu.tools which takes > >you > >> > to a marketing landing page? > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Carlos. >