From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 100954 invoked by alias); 6 Oct 2018 12:52:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gnutools-advocacy-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: Sender: gnutools-advocacy-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 100936 invoked by uid 89); 6 Oct 2018 12:52:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Checked: by ClamAV 0.100.1 on sourceware.org X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=forums, participate, richard.guenther@gmail.com, richardguenthergmailcom X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on sourceware.org X-Spam-Level: X-HELO: mail-wm1-f45.google.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XJoAnHGdBO67bBoIisTUf6AC7f5xhUncqjqa+MS/AYY=; b=Q2lCURIz0g0sEgJGjh9QsiLUHZgprZhsC9e83TV30c+l64LKHlAp4xUbaoWS23PmZo ex67huDe81BWORM9UdkEliLWYOtmdwLVB2lPAVTpm4ZS39TwgEFWoMxi44Bwm5pcv1BZ Tpl747A07TbTNC9gzwHsi3f+Zp3WgaeTOLHzB7qTPM2GIesuQcuPSybEKye3X66gtb32 xSqgTAEtRunXd2rNzTOusiVw9FhkPS3bED/xFAa3r5WS35d1M5H4tp0mYy1AUu6UJvAt qiYcYZkxqNfst24hIE93udq8k14s32ttHrvYBf0urjlplZDQUz9K+Md8sPYAgvBGXPQt 0ivw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XJoAnHGdBO67bBoIisTUf6AC7f5xhUncqjqa+MS/AYY=; b=GYMAhuj9eMI1M/cXLELHnXJdz6ISxrXyg8waeG3N44a5VogJG5Nk2xd3kdBCYoKQAs MbA/aPBHqjRIaKph6TGNuTwTFIvDesWn23Fw04dv8Vp3UCZSgz5i1srNRxiTi5AqWuVQ 9YiCfm+rxEjdwnYqlAb9TOnEkcowYM9N/Um2xO17E6OXnomQd7hxUfheOMSQz0u2Qxv3 FXhqQhhTeojMim7X+9gfgl4tzR2GjbbY26Jo6wYRhnfzOdri8Z3ATZpIqdJj71UzRhLv BdWpNjzB/tatlrO91RIIQjnhxmdkDomiA0scEXfBIg5KO95NKZa3qHHoAndUFUi8qwBZ iUmg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojWMYvPjwMUNsX8n1JFkpeSQtyK9K1caZuS8vF9IchN/7k8aBUB NM4GpJxWflQpsqq36NRTw0ycoYg/8dXz37Hc+QY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62zDHwHRbZhnVpoVaS8TEEzqzhsGF3FmzxFzvrAb79TDfJmppLOVrpsfF+Cl/33gmtrHUqT2lPagxUjaHGRiww= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:13c4:: with SMTP id 187-v6mr10703484wmt.66.1538830348162; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 05:52:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <29850D75-B7F9-41FA-8E38-B8B4915D36BC@gmail.com> <45AA782B-502B-4BE9-9CBB-76917338CBD0@gmail.com> <95559138-7960-4694-A85F-E13D4E2FC218@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: David Edelsohn Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNU toolchain web page To: lxoliva@fsfla.org Cc: Richard Biener , gnutools-advocacy@gcc.gnu.org, "Richard M. Stallman" , "Carlos O'Donell" , iains.gcc@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SW-Source: 2018-q4/txt/msg00025.txt.bz2 Alex, Please don't redirect a discussion about advocacy for the GNU Toolchain and the design of the web page into a discussion about GNU philosophy. It's rude. It's not productive. And it discourages other people from joining and helping. Please stop making the conversation about you and your priorities. There are many other mailing lists and forums to discuss this topic for those who wish to participate. Thanks, David On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 8:16 AM Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Oct 6, 2018, Richard Biener wrote: > > > maybe I am too pragmatic to work on FSF owned software. > > Pragmatism can only be compared when there's agreement as to the goals > and their priorities. > > It is never pragmatic to sacrifice the main goal for an accessory one, > but it may be pragmatic to sacrifice an accessory goal for the main one. > > -- > Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo > Be the change, be Free! FSF Latin America board member > GNU Toolchain Engineer Free Software Evangelist