From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 82592 invoked by alias); 9 Oct 2018 11:54:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gnutools-advocacy-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: Sender: gnutools-advocacy-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 82575 invoked by uid 89); 9 Oct 2018 11:54:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=joint, outcome, draws, goals X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on sourceware.org X-Spam-Level: X-HELO: fencepost.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: "Carlos O'Donell" Cc: lxoliva@fsfla.org, dje.gcc@gmail.com, gnutools-advocacy@gcc.gnu.org cc: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (carlos@systemhalted.org) Subject: Re: GNU Toolchain web site mock-up Reply-To: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000 X-SW-Source: 2018-q4/txt/msg00034.txt.bz2 > > I'm afraid I have to ask who's this 'We' you write about. > Everybody else who is willing to use such tools. The word "tools" is vague and draws attention away from the issue, which is asking the participants in this group to run the nonfree client software that Google Docs requires. The reason Alexandre is unwilling to run that software is that he supports the ideas and goals of GNU. To make this site properly promote GNU, its development needs the participation of people like Alexandre who hold to those ideas. That is crucial for a good outcome. > Feel free to use any other tools and post mokcups of what you would > like a GNU Toolchain website to look like. He could do this on his own, but that would not enable him to truly participate. The question is, could he work with you in the joint effort while doing it that way? For instance, could he access your latest draft, in its source form, and send you proposed patches to that, without running the nonfree software? If he can do that, I suppose cooperation could function that way. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)