From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24865 invoked by alias); 16 Nov 2001 22:39:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gsl-discuss-help@sourceware.cygnus.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gsl-discuss-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 24844 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 22:39:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.libero.it) (193.70.192.53) by sourceware.cygnus.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 22:39:30 -0000 Received: from ametraf03.ametrano.net (151.30.106.187) by smtp3.libero.it (6.0.032) id 3BD43E25007C8458; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:39:19 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011116230259.00a5ca00@mail.ametrano.net> X-Sender: 38373.ferdinando@mail.ametrano.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:20:00 -0000 To: E.Robert.Tisdale@jpl.nasa.gov From: Ferdinando Ametrano Subject: Re: [smartquant] Re: GPL license violation? [GNU Scientific Library] Cc: gsl-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com In-Reply-To: <3BF54A11.AD3384E0@jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-SW-Source: 2001/txt/msg00025.txt.bz2 Message-ID: <20011219132000.Gs5WXJgBakKoeWmPYLQ2VmSJLHvemYNSg0BZu_29U8Q@z> Robert Tisdale wrote: >Anton Fokin doesn't need to comply with the GPL >if he doesn't distribute the GSL with his program. This is simply not true. Please do not state your opinion as truth. Anton Fokin do need to comply with the GPL if his software R-Quant needs GSL to work. That is if R-Quant includes GSL wrappers R-Quant must be GPL. This is not just my opinion: it has always been made clear by FSF. >His customers can obtain the GSL from another source >and link it into his code themselves as long as >they don't distribute the GSL with Anton's program. That's true: any R-Quant user can *extend* R-Quant functionality adding GSL as long as they don't re-distribute GSL with R-Quant. This is not true anymore if R-Quant needs GSL to work: in this case R-Quant is derivative software and must be GPL. >Please, Brian, if you want people to use the GSL, >try to be a little more helpful and a little less confrontational. if you want people to use GSL, teach them about what is free software. I said free software, not stolen software. >I have advised and still advise people to avoid the GSL. Avoid GSL if you don't want your software to be GPL. This is what I do in the free software project I founded (http://quantlib.org), since I preferred BSD-style license. I regret I cannot use GSL, but I respect and support Brian decision to go GPL. Hope this doesn't sound too harsh. Ferdinando Ametrano PS Brian: have you considered to give the GSL copyright to the FSF? from http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html: "Note that the GPL, and other copyleft licenses, are copyright licenses. This means that only the copyright holders are empowered to act against violations. The FSF acts on all GPL violations reported on FSF copyrighted code, and we offer assistance to any other copyright holder who wishes to do the same. But, we cannot act on our own if we do not hold copyright. Thus, be sure to find out who the copyright holders of the software are before reporting a violation."