From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18464 invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2009 16:12:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18455 invoked by uid 22791); 14 Oct 2009 16:12:35 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SARE_MSGID_LONG40,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mail-yw0-f201.google.com (HELO mail-yw0-f201.google.com) (209.85.211.201) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:12:31 +0000 Received: by ywh39 with SMTP id 39so5416461ywh.26 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.148.16 with SMTP id a16mr1307682ago.119.1255536749548; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jonathan Leto Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:12:00 -0000 Message-ID: <9aaadf9c0910140912q7532fd82n9317b6e735dbc2ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New rngs... To: "Robert G. Brown" Cc: GSL Discussion list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mailing-List: contact gsl-discuss-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gsl-discuss-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2009-q4/txt/msg00016.txt.bz2 Howdy, I would very much like to see these RNGs added to GSL, so that I can add them to Math::GSL and access them from Perl. I am willing to work on integrating these into GSL, as long as the GSL maintainers want this to be done. Should I continue in this direction? Cheers, [0] http://search.cpan.org/dist/Math-GSL/ On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > Dear Brian et. al. > > As we're discussing the roadmap for a new GSL, I'd like to offer up at > least two, maybe three more random number generators for inclusion in > the GSL list that have been contributed and integrated into dieharder. > One that I think should absolutely be there is rng_aes -- basically an > implementation of AES as a random number generator. =A0AES is > cryptographic grade random and is arguably very close to a "gold > standard" that can be used to test random number generator testers, as > there is always an unstated addition to the null hypothesis "Assuming > that this is a perfect random number generator AND that this is a valid > test...", and failure of the latter is very difficult to discriminate > from failure of the former without at least a few generators for which > failure of the former is arguably less likely than failure of the > latter. =A0rng_threefish does the same thing on top of many rounds of > skein. =A0I was using aespipe to feed dieharder in a pipe until these were > contributed, but having them integrated is worthwhile, especially given > that rng_aes is respectably fast, around 1/5 the speed of mt19937. > > =A0 rgb > > Robert G. Brown =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www= .phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ > Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 > Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 > Phone: 1-919-660-2567 =A0Fax: 919-660-2525 =A0 =A0 email:rgb@phy.duke.edu > > > --=20 Jonathan Leto jonathan@leto.net http://leto.net